Big Changes Coming to Trans Way, One of the Main Groups for the Trans Community

By Tara Murtha
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Much like the membership, big changes are under way at TransWay, the weekly meetup for trans folk held at the William Way LGBT Community Center at 1315 Spruce St. After running steady since 2008, the founding leadership stepped down last month under allegations of discrimination within the group. Now, TransWay is rebuilding from the ground up, including looking for a new facilitator who will steer the group into the future. 


So what happened? Turns out, even the most marginalized groups are not immune to prejudice within the ranks. Members allege the discrimination manifested along the lines of “passing privilege.” 


“Basically what happened was we had a clique of trans women who became very classist, very size-ist, very discriminatory of what they think trans people are and aren’t,” says 25-year-old Ahuviya Harel, who has been a part of the group since last year. Identifying as gender-queer male-to-female, Harel, donning camo pants when we met, says she felt discriminated against for not presenting herself as feminine enough. “It’s very insulting to be insulted in a place where you had reasonable expectation of safety and community [because] you can’t get that elsewhere for most transgendered people,” says Harel. “To be put down … because of your gender presentation … We have enough people outside the trans community that do that to us.”


Twenty-six-year-old blogger-activist Jordan Gwendolyn Davis has been attending TransWay since moving to Philly this winter. She tossed all her “boy clothes” in the garbage and began taking hormones that suppress testosterone within the last year. Today her features are much softer than the photo on her most recent driver’s license.


“If I could make this 5 o’clock shadow disappear, I would,” she says during a recent chat in the homey lobby of William Way. A light stubble pierces through her smooth skin. “Trust me,” she sighs, running her hand across her cheek. “It’s a lot worse in the morning.” 


Davis says everyone transitions at their own pace, and it’s not cool to go around dishing out unsolicited advice to trans people—especially advice regarding what to do with their genitals, which Davis calls sexual harassment. “People started telling me to tuck,” says Davis.


“I was a witness to a trans woman who came in who was pre-op and was given such a hard time about it,” echoes Pamela Flanigan, 63. “They said, ‘You don’t look like a trans woman, you don’t belong here. Go!’”


Formal complaints were filed regarding some incidents.


“I’ve been aware for a number of months that there were issues both with things being said on Facebook and various folks not feeling as welcome as others within the group,” says Chris Bartlett, executive director of William Way. While the Center discussed how to handle the situation, some members began planning what they refer to as a hostile takeover or coup.

Then last month, admist the drama, leadership voluntarily stepped down. 


Though it’s easy to play the blame game with specific personalities—as indeed, friendships have shattered and who-said-what rumors continue to spiral—Barlett points out that the clashes within the group are symptomatic of larger questions and sea-change shifts in the trans community and ultimately, the gay and lesbian community at large. 


“This is not an uncommon occurrence,” says Bartlett. “One of the things being done within the community is we’re having conversations [about] who is included in the community and who is not.”


Some of the friction has to be attributed to the fact that when TransWay was founded in 2008, it was originally intended as a group for trans women only. But the trans community includes people who identify as genderqueer but are not interested in altering their appearance or passing as another gender. Some trans people identify as both male and female, or neither, or as a third gender.


Bartlett sees the trans community redefining its borders as a “new frontier” for figuring out what is essentially a paradox: how to have a positive and safe community center tailored to the specific needs of GLBTQ folks that also welcomes everyone who walks through the door.


On a recent Thursday evening, William Way Director of Center Services Candice Thompson, who is filling in as temporary facilitator of TransWay, leads a brainstorming session. Tons of ideas are generated: hosting legal workshops, movie nights, arts salons, political town-hall-style meetings. The group touches on the ways the needs of the trans community are unique and diverge from the needs of gay, lesbian, bisexual and queer communities. 


The group also discusses the challenges of bringing outreach into neighborhoods and reducing transphobia by going into the public space. Someone suggests borrowing a technique from gay activists called “queering the space,” where a group travels to a particular spot to hang out and have a good time, inadvertently showing off how regular they are. 


They talked about neighborhoods they can go to that would make a good political impact, and which ones they might “wind up dead in,” a somber reminder that the strength of the trans community, despite differences, is in supporting one another.


But the main point that everyone keeps returning to is that in order to evolve, the group must open the doors wider than in the past. 


“I hope that TransWay will be accepting of the full spectrum of gender identities, regardless of presentation, regardless of anything,” says Harel. “And that’s pretty much what’s happening.”


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1. Wish said... on Jul 20, 2011 at 01:29PM

“You're missing a pretty big part of the story here. You can't just report one side of a story. You need to interview those who stepped down and hear their side.

Ahuviya has participated in as well as instigated drama among the LGBT community on a site called DeviantArt. She has also expressed some disturbingly extreme measures in reaction to California's Prop 8 decision some years ago.

I don't mean to say that discrimination isn't involved here, but I have reason to believe that Ahuviya's personality caused more friction in this community than her outward presentation.”

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2. Anonymous said... on Jul 20, 2011 at 01:46PM

“Just google "Ahuviya Harel". Harel being a communist extremist (including calls for terrorism, riots, political assassination, mass murder and civil war in the United States) is only a tip of an iceberg, but I think it's enough to mention just that. Here, this is what Harel drew just yesterday: http://verganza-de-sasuke.deviantart.com/art/A-H-U-V-I-Y-A-H-E-L-L-243205833 - what a great "oppressed" heroine you've got here, Tara Murtha!”

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3. Anonymous said... on Jul 20, 2011 at 03:34PM

“Did the the "journalist" interview those responsible for "Now, TransWay is rebuilding from the ground up, including looking for a new facilitator who will steer the group into the future" rather than just a member of the group 


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4. Trey said... on Jul 20, 2011 at 03:48PM

“Ahuviya Harel is an elitist himself. He is a very violent thinking person who will harass anyone that doesn't match up to his standards. He has harassed his ex ruthlessly, because she doesn't feel comfortable with coming out of the closet to her relatives. I, myself, was ridiculed online by him. I was called a "Polish cock-sucking Catholic whore." He released my phone number and personal information online.

Why didn't you interview the accused? There could've been more to the story than that.”

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5. Anonymous said... on Jul 20, 2011 at 04:17PM

“I don't think Ms. Harel is a very reliable source of information. As pointed out, she is well known to as a radical internet personality and self-identified communist who has advocated violent and vindictive acts of aggression. I've dealt with her in the past and I can say that her opinions are polarized and are a result of misunderstanding. I really believe that there's more to it than what she has offered.”

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6. Orokabu said... on Jul 20, 2011 at 04:22PM

“Everything from the last four posts is the truth, Tara.

And this is Ahuviya's response to anyone who doesn't refer to him as a woman: youtube.com/watch?v=-9gT9ZOft2I

And I quote from this disturbing video; "The next retard who insists on calling me by male pronouns will get a free trip to the GULAGS in SIBERIA!"”

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7. Anonymous said... on Jul 20, 2011 at 06:46PM

“WOW, How in the world were these two the two that were interviewed? Sadly the interviewed I'm sure knew no better but these two people are nothing but trouble & very poor representatives of the people in the trans community, honestly I'm completely embarrassed by them, people who shed a negative light on the trans community, the community in which I'm a part of & their disruptive & poor behavior does nothing but make life harder for those of us who try our best to portray a positive image so your damn right something going to be said & that doesn't make it discrimination when what they're doing is reflecting back on the rest of us, we are all responsible for how society views us & these two could careless about anyone but themselves, their the type of people who need chaos in they're lives, without it they have no purpose!!!! the big changes for trans way with these two involved will be it's demise.”

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8. Kourine said... on Jul 20, 2011 at 09:16PM

“I have nothing against transgenders and neither does anyone who discussed the truth about Ms. Harel's character. We all wish the saner members (which does not include Ahuviya) at Transway the best of luck. However, Ms. Harel's vindictive nature and chicken-hawk behavior is only doing to cause the group more headaches in the future. He'll treat this group the same as he did to the anime club him and I went to back in college. He's going to sit on his ass and not want to help the group at all”

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9. Sherry said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 03:50AM

“While the 2 losers are savoring their self-appointed non-existent importance like they have any idea at all for what to do next, Transway’s going down the drain. Instead of these morons brainstorming ideas that in their wildest dreams they could never see through. Someone (hopefully from William Way) wants to find somebody who actually can make a difference, We need a good solidly run group there's allot of us who would become members, this went from poorly run (mainly from lack of time that a good group requires) to utter trash now with these 2 guys involved. For Transway to survive now it's going to require someone totally dedicated who's dependable respectful, well liked with group and event experience and works great with others and are themselves trans so its done right. can't wait to see how many people fill that bill lol”

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10. EF said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 05:21AM

“You should have interviewed the volunteers that stepped down after donating their time for the past years. Two sides to every story ya know.”

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11. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 05:58AM

“Why is Chris Bartlett being presented as an authority on the state of the trans communities? He is totally clueless about anything that isn't white and gay male.”

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12. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 11:11AM

“Ahuviya Harel has much more issues than "some radical political beliefs" - and it includes public calls for the gays to murder fellow Americans in a "civil war" and "a bloodbath" (it's all quotes), "even if it kills innocent people in the process", and is shamelessly daydreaming about torturing and murdering various persons, and of a mass murder and "genocide" (still quotes) of whole various groups ranging from the American Christians to capitalists worldwide to "do-nothing liberals" that he would perform if Harel only got the power - and you want to give such person power (any power)?”

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13. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 11:24AM

“Mind you, Harel is a deeply unstable individual who has blogged about beating his own mother (did this, by "throwing the first punch") and has extremely violent fantasies against various people (one time in 2008, the one infamous picture of himself (Harel has strongly identified as a gay male back then, before he decided to become a lesbian woman and then a "genderqueer pansexual") shooting John McCain in the face, which he took this to his school in order to proudly show it to everyone, resulted in a questioning by the police).

Did you even see this picture on his deviantART account, drawn just 2 days ago? It reads: "Communism doesn't kill people... I DO!" That's what Ahuviya Harel believes, and remember her long-time dream is to lead a communist "queer revolution" to violently overthrow the US government and "purge" the population. Do you really want to let her spread such extremist beliefs among the other trans-sexual people, unchecked?”

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14. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 11:35AM

“You should check out Jordan Gwendolyn's topless Facebook picture at the Dyke March. Trans gone wild.”

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15. Kourine said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 11:49AM

“Oh, wonderful... I know Ahuyiva.

I knew her when she was still identifying as a bondage-obsessed fascist gay male. I can't attest to whatever she has been up to since we parted ways but I advise nobody to take this article as fact. She doesn't seem to be any more stable or any less insufferable. Keep in mind that there are other sides to this story and are likely to be more coherent.”

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16. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 01:00PM

“It seems that passable transsexuals don't join trans organizations.”

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17. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 03:53PM

“Passable versus non-passable trans women, next on Jerry Springer!”

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18. Jordan Gwendolyn Davis said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 04:11PM

“It's safe to say Anonymous 18-19 is a transphobe.

And I don't care if you are post op and passable, It was not about RAA's passing privilege, it was about her creating a hostile atmosphere for other people, as well as her sexual harassment and "ist" remarks.”

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19. Jordan Gwendolyn Davis said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 04:19PM

“I mean, 19-20, sorry.”

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20. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 06:02PM

“Or Anonymous 19-20 has a sense of humor.”

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21. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 08:30PM

“While I'm not sure that the internal dramas of a support group qualifies as news/ (does Philly Weakly report on the dramas in say Cis women's, gay men's, lesbian coming out, parents, bereavement or other support groups? No nonprofit structure, no paid positions? Correct? It's lime writing about a group of people who go bowling every Thursday night as dome major cultural, nonprofit or political org.)
- It's nice to know that PhillyWeakly will find a way to make trans people look weird. Interview someone who apparently advocates violence / not interview the person who is one half of the story - and defer to a non trans person as an authority on our lives.

Well done. I look forward to you interviewing trans people as experts on gay male support group internal politics.”

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22. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 10:37PM

“Evelyn Friel has this post on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/notes/evelyn-friel/screwed-for-volunteering-by-philadelphia-weekly/1863255702247

This could be libel suit against Tara Murtha and the Philadelphia Weekly.

Of all the problems transgender people live with such as violent hate crimes and discrimination who would have believed that sizism was the biggest threat.

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23. Anonymous said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 07:17AM

“According to Jordan Gwendolyn's Facebook page she is leaving Philadelphia today for Pittsburgh till the end of the month. She is being kicked out of her housing and has no where to go. None of her thousand plus Facebook friends apparently is offering her a place to stay in Philadelphia. I would think that if I were jobless with only $300 a month to spend on housing I would concentrate on organizing my life rather than causing drama and protesting "sizism" in support and political groups. By the way people outside of the sex industry don't discuss their genitals.”

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24. Anonymous said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 07:34AM

“In order to be a slut doesn't somebody have to cooperate?”

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25. Shame on the Way! said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 03:29PM

“Bring back TransWay the way it was intended. Those who are not satisfied can start another group or join an outside group that matches their needs. Shame on Wm Way for supporting fringe elements to engage in attack tactics and not be responsible for a group housed under their umbrella... As a group facilitator it is hard to fend off those who try to take over or turn a group into their own. Wm Way should be a safe place for Trans Way people meeting with intended mission, not a Bi Way or High Way for them to be turned away so one or two can HIGHjack or HIGHJaci a great group!!! 33 responses two days after publication speaks volumes for Trans discrimination to be the norm, not the exception. Mad as hell not gonna take it no more!”

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26. Anonymous said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 03:38PM

“Jordan is taking Megabus to Pittsburgh and giving instructions to the driver.
"Attn Megabus, instead of going through the constantly congested Sq Hill tunnel, why dont u just use Exit 78A and just keep going down Penn until the dropoff @ 10th"

I'm want to wish her a long and happy trip to Pittsburgh.”

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27. Anonymous said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 03:41PM

“Are those flip flops Jordan is wearing for a photoshoot? So chic!”

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28. Rika said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 04:16PM

“I sent this article to a friend who is trans and she laughed at the stupidity of it.

"Show people how regular we are." ANNNNDDD The part about tucking.

And what on Satan's Green Earth is Jordan doing going to Pittsburgh? Running maybe.”

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29. Anonymous said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 05:31PM

“If this all inclusive group is started will they start a transgendered support group for MTF trans people. William Way has one for the FTM trans guys or will the MTF trans girls be left out of the Center. The WWCC will have somethng in common with Equality Advocate the way they are bailing out on the TRANSGENDERED people.”

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30. Anonymous said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 06:28PM

“You cant make a group specifically for one kind of person and then pick and choose which kinds of those people can be in it. Its complete hypocrisy to having a group at all. Aren't these groups supposed to be for support instead of judgement?? Being transgendered should be about embracing who you are, Its not a popularity contest of OH I WANNA BE POSH SO ILL CHOP OFF MY COCK AND ACT LIKE A STUCK UP BITCH. I mean seriously? JUst be secure with who you are and maybe you wont feel the need to knock other people, who also are transgendered. There should be some unity here instead of battling each other.. Like it or not ITS TRUE”

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31. Anonymous said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 07:39PM

“#41 are you kidding me? Transsexuality is not about being "posh." It is a medical psychiatric condition. When we have reassignment surgery it is not "chopping off my cock". You write like a phobic straight man. We get harrassed and now that we set up support networks we are being attacked again. Passing is not a "privilege" it is the only way we can live, work, survive.”

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32. Anonymous said... on Jul 22, 2011 at 08:16PM

“ROFL! TRANNY WARS!!!!!

JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!! JERRY!!!!”

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33. Anonymous said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 12:42AM

“i want 2 turn my cock into a cunt”

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34. Rob G. said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 10:35AM

“As a Human, I find this disturbing. As a Philadelphian, (of the City of Brotherly Love and Sisterly Affection), I find this embarrassing. As a "transperson", I find this sad. As a role model/youth worker and a person seeking the support of allies, I find this absolutely tragic. Seriously, where is the Love? Not even the Love for other people so much as the Love within each of you? The more you Love yourself, the easier it is to Love other people by letting them be who they are and where they are. Many of us were not given the choice to be taught gender roles, gender presentations, internalized oppression, transphobia, violence, and other kinds of negativity, but each of us has the choice to hold on to these things and to let them affect other people.

We are certainly worth more than this.”

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35. Anonymous said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 11:59AM

“It seems that Trans Way was a group for M to F transgender women who were transitioning. Then some other people with other objectives decided to take over the group and change the direction regardless of the needs of the transitioning women. I don't think that Davis and Harel are the aggrieved parties here. If you don't want to hear that you can't present yourself as a woman with visible male genitals then what are you doing there?”

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36. Anonymous said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 03:07PM

“@45 if you go to the proper psychological testing, get two letters from different doctors, live full time a minimum of one year, spend over five thousand dollars on electrolysis, and go thru the hormone therapy, oh and have a little (or a lot depending where you go) over twenty thousand dollars you can. Don't forget the part about losing family and friends who get freaked out. Oh and you normally get fired from your job also. I am sure I missed some of the other fun points. If you go thru the above and some stuff I probably missed you too can have a vagina.”

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37. Anonymous said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 03:50PM

“Transway was formed as a safe space for trans women to get together and socialize as women. And to help each other become the women that we dreamed of being. Now that WWCC has opened the group to other gender variants trans women have no space to call our own at WWCC. If the gender variants wanted a group why didn't they have the initiative to start a group of their own instead of destroying what the transwomen had? It is sad that these two idiots spread lies and fabricated stories to discredit those they should be thanking for trans way even being there. And if having a group dedicated to a specific slice of community is discrimination then there should be no We-Exist (TRANS MEN ONLY) at WWCC , there should be no gay mens groups or lesbian only groups but there is and they are not being forced to open their doors to everyone. Trans-way also was a social group. It was not intended or equipped to deal with people who have mental health issues that require a Therapy.”

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38. Anonymous said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 04:33PM

“Almost everyone here should be ashamed of themselves especially everyone in the article! This never had to be handled in this manor had it not been all of the posts that followed would never have been made. Had this takeover been for the right reasons (If good reasons even exist) you didn’t need to be so public about it, that was purely self-serving & did nothing but give another black eye to the Trans community, most of the comments that followed also do nothing positive for the community, what were you people thinking? A very simple NO COMMENT right off the bat would have worked just fine & the reoriginizing could have been handled smoothly & quietly. Guess having your names in some rag holds more meaning for some then does the community they say they belong to & those that follow didn’t give their community much thought either, I’m totally embarrassed by most of you!!”

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39. Anonymous said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 06:27PM

“seems to me that things haven't changed since the 70s. same kind of people different time.Being trans is hard enough!!! with your own kind judging you....”

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40. Anonymous said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 10:15PM

“This website must have nothing good to report if they are covering petty tranny drama”

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41. Rika said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 10:56PM

“@52 You forgot to mention Also to. What is up with the title of this article? "One of the Main Groups of the Trans Community"

IT WAS 3 FUCKING PEOPLE ORIGINALLY! Few people in the mainstream trans community even knew about this fringe group!”

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42. Anonymous said... on Jul 23, 2011 at 11:57PM

“# 50, telling trans people we should be ashamed of ourselves? God knows that has always worked...”

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43. Jordan Gwendolyn Davis said... on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:10PM

“Last Thursday, transway had NINE people in attendance, and I felt it was a safe meeting, before RAA resigned, we had 5 at best. Many of the people who felt unsafe with RAA have come back to the fold. I love the new Transway and the best is yet to come.

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44. Anonymous said... on Jul 24, 2011 at 03:44PM

“If I had to look at that reflection I'd scream too! By the way, when is Ms. Davis Due?”

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45. Anonymous said... on Jul 24, 2011 at 03:48PM

“We have Ms. Davis her due. It takes balls to go out looking like that.”

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46. Anonymous said... on Jul 24, 2011 at 07:10PM

“@ 53, Just wondering who are the "mainstream trans community" now that you mention them? exactly who does that include? They must be the ones out making a positive difference in the community that nobody sees?”

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47. Anonymous said... on Jul 24, 2011 at 07:49PM

“#58 I could have done without that image of Jordan's privates on view.”

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48. Anonymous said... on Jul 24, 2011 at 09:20PM

“nobody seems to like Jordan & with good reason so does anyone have a suggestion as to whom might be qualified enough to bring this group around or is it just fun bashing? It may be a shitty group right now but maybe with the right person or people it could become something good. I'm just curious if the groups even wanted under different leadership or does everyone really not give a shit either way since our community is so well organized & tight nit?”

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49. Anonymous said... on Jul 24, 2011 at 11:27PM

“wanna bet he isn't even in Pittsburgh, this fuck lies about everything, he can't possible be in charge of Rachael's meeting is he? there's no way that can be true”

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50. Anonymous said... on Jul 24, 2011 at 11:36PM

“With all due respect to everybody it think it may be time for this comment thread and the Jordan bashing, however much it may or may not be deserved, to close. What more needs to be said?”

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51. Anonymous said... on Jul 25, 2011 at 12:01AM

“amazing how much everyone loves to bash isn't it, I'm just very surprised that the WWCC took any stance at all with any of this, I'm guessing they are just trying to help but commenting right there with the likes of Jordon & that other thing in army fatigues,who in their right minds would wanna comment on the same article with them”

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52. Anonymous said... on Jul 25, 2011 at 02:03PM

“There was nothing wrong with the leadership at T-way. These two wackos had a problem with the fact that the group was for trans women and not gender queer or any other gender variant group. The problem started with these two morons. They where the problem. They profess to be women but don't do anything that is part of the process of being women. And then have the nerve to be pissed when they don't get respected as women. You won't get any respect as a woman by doing nothing and not taking constructive advice. Commie outfits are not the latest womens fashion craze nor is walking around like some gorilla like the other moron does.”

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53. Anonymous said... on Jul 25, 2011 at 08:30PM

“Jordan said asking him to tuck is sexual harassment , WTF is him spreading, in a skirt, his legs in front of me and letting me see his penis at William Way Community Center.
EF”

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54. Anonymous said... on Jul 25, 2011 at 09:15PM

“well since Mr. Jordan is allegedly in Pittsburgh is that other twit in camo going to be at this Thursday's meeting? I would hope with all these losers had to say above one of them should be at the meeting, Mr. Jordan skipped outta town because he didn't want to face the music, how about the other guy? Is he around”

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55. Anonymous said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 02:08AM

“#57 - Ahuviya Harel (the camo guy) will be probably too preoccupied with finding a new home right now, as the people who took him in February just gave him 2 weeks to get the hell out of their house (discrimination!).”

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56. Anonymous said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 02:26AM

“Btw, seems Jordan is really pissed off by Rika's comments here: "I am actually near the point where I am going to notify the police about the harassment that Rika has committed against me, and it was harassment." - from a facebook post ("It’s very insulting to be insulted", etc).”

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57. Anonymous said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 07:35AM

“@59 "tall female was a tall female"”

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58. Anonymous said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 12:29PM

“The mainstream Trans Community didn't know that Trans-Way existed at the William Way lgbT Community Center? How mainstream do you have to be to not know what is going on at Thee LGBT Center of the City! The Heartbeat of the LGBT Community! Sounds like the mainstream was so mainstream that they where out of the stream. Maybe they should have been there to make the group better instead of being self absorbed in being so mainstream.”

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59. Anonymous said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 02:55PM

“On the full moon the angry trans women with lighted torches march on Jordenstein castle to rid their community of the monster...”

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60. Cisgender realist said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 05:10PM

“This has to stop Thomas. First, you deny your great parents the ability to even call you and see you. Second, you start hanging around trash like Phillip Haskins. A man who has admitted to beating his OWN mother because he didn't want to financial chip in for the rent and living expenses. Third, Phillip has leeched off everybody who lends him a hand. In my motherland of Israel and my parents homeland of Russia. Phillip is like the disgusting capitalist bourgeois leeches draining the middle class for consumer goods like pink wigs, naruto dvds, handcuffs.
Fourth, you haven't even been looking for a job and adopted some of Mr. Haskins worst traits. Fifth, how can you be a turtle princess when you're 1/64 native American. No respectable GENUINE native Americans would never put a person like you as their princess or even part of the tribes roster. Fifth, Telling people like you and phillip to apply for jobs isn't ableist. It's called having a work ethic and working through your problems”

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61. Anonymous said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 05:22PM

“I’m Still waiting to read who these mainstream transpeople are, what’s that supposed to mean anyway? Are they like the elite among transsexuals who gather somewhere secretly & if they didn’t know about Trans way I’m guessing it’s because they are attending “all” the other meetings for transpeople in the city since we have sooooo many to choose from. I’m also wondering do you get some kind of ID card after while that says you belong to the elitist mainstream trans community? Is there some kind of dues one needs to pay to join?? Could someone tell me just where all these great meetings are?????”

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62. Jordan Gwendolyn Davis said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 05:32PM

“Please refrain from referring to myself and Ahuviya by our former names/pronouns, and please, how do you know my former name or the fact that I have no contact with my family!!!!!!!!!!!”

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63. Anonymous said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 06:01PM

“Jordan, I don't know how Cisgender realist knows your real name. Perhaps she found it on the Internet or maybe she knows you. Regarding contact with your family you published that on your Facebook page when you wrote about being harassed by the Bensalem police. Remember?”

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64. Anonymous said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 06:21PM

“http://phillygaycalendar.com/photos2/photo.php?pid=36719”

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65. Anonymous said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 06:29PM

“http://phillygaycalendar.com/photos2/photo.php?pid=36743”

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66. Very funny thread said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 07:43PM

“go to "http://789chan.org/cwc/" and scroll down to the comic with a pencil drawing of a guy with a sword. at that thread click the view last 50 post link. it is a thread that talks about Jordan and Ahuviya.”

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67. Kristyn Nichols said... on Jul 26, 2011 at 11:13PM

“we need to support our community...NOT fragment it!! I have helped run Rennaisance for many years and would love to help here at William Way. If Candice needs help, please let me know! write me at captchris6@aol.com. Thanks, kristyn”

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68. Anonymous said... on Jul 27, 2011 at 01:45AM

“There’s an idea, recruit a few transwoman from different organizations with a proven track record who are dependable an experienced, I can’t believe they’re that few and hard to come by in this city an even harder to believe WWCC doesn’t know of any. If they’re that hard to find that’s a pretty big wake up call at our communities lack of people who really care an are out there willing to give their time, I saw a couple posts on this stream asking if anyone knows anybody, the bashing continues with no mention of anyone decent who can help, that sucks.”

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69. Anonymous said... on Jul 27, 2011 at 10:28AM

“All of the responsible trans people in Philadelphia refuse to have anything to do with this article and wish it would go away. It is completely possible that everybody involved is wrong.”

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70. Anonymous said... on Jul 27, 2011 at 01:06PM

“New Ahuviya thread >D http://789chan.org/cwc/res/81441.html”