The (Scary) Truth About Cats and Dogs

It’s been four months since the PSPCA took over the city’s animal shelter system. It’s failing.

By Tara Murtha
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Hello, kitty: During kitten season, it’s harder for Lady Eleanor (pictured) and her friends to find homes because so many cats come in to city shelters.

Photo by Michael Persico

UPDATE: After PW’s cover story ran Wednesday, Councilman Jack Kelly made some remarks about animal control on the floor Wednesday. He then arrived Thursday and delivered an energetic speech citing PW’s research and spiraling conditions for Philadelphia’s animals. Kelly went on to criticize the Nutter Administration and the Health Department for the current chaos and cloudy future of animal control in a full speech accessible here.

Every year, roughly 31,000 animals funnel into the city’s Animal Care and Control Center (ACCT) shelter on West Hunting Park Avenue in North Philadelphia.

This animal shelter is the primary chance homeless animals—mostly stray cats and dogs, and with the recession, more and more house pets—have at living healthy lives and finding new homes. Animal advocates bring them here to save them from sometimes fatal dangers of living on the streets: disease, fighting with wild animals and kidney failure brought on by licking bowls of antifreeze placed on porches as renegade population control.

But now, insiders say, shelter conditions have gotten so bad that animals need to be saved from the very place they go for protection.

Since the Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (PSPCA) reassumed Philadelphia’s animal control contract in January, reports of intake backlog, overcrowding, fuzzy numbers and infectious disease outbreaks have oozed out of the shelter in a steady stream.

Insiders allege that shelter conditions and protocol are crumbling. Rescue workers (who regularly pull animals out of the shelter and place them in homes) and volunteers say they’ve never seen so many sick animals come out of the Hunting Park shelter. One foster parent with more than 20 years experience says that in the last few months, all 18 of the kittens she rescued from ACCT have died.

“They might seem fine the day you pull them, but within two weeks, they’re gone,” she says. “My backyard is like a graveyard.”

 


Misery Behind the Mystery

Stories about degenerating animal care at the shelter have been swirling for months now, but have been slow to reach the public because the people close enough to the shelter to see what’s happening say they are afraid to talk. Many of the rescue workers and volunteers interviewed for this story asked that PW withhold their names for fear of retaliation.

The phrase “Please don’t use my name” was as common as the odd, seemingly paranoid behavior that followed requests for an interview: an urgent call from a gas station pay phone; in-person interviews cancelled at the last second; unfulfilled promises to get back in touch after consulting a lawyer. Mistrust and suspicion coursed through emails and phone calls. Animal control in Philadelphia has taken on a Rosemary’s Baby vibe.

I wouldn’t put it past them to ban me from the shelter, said one source after another.

Interviewees point to blackballed rescuer Margaret Boritz as an example of what can happen when you question or criticize the treatment of animals inside ACCT.

Boritz says she combed the shelter almost every day for animals to rescue until she began criticizing shelter practices and got kicked out. Boritz says she was advised that she was banned from the shelter “pending cruelty charges” on March 15. She says she has not received documentation of the charge.

“I asked too many questions, made too many people uncomfortable, offered solutions to the problems and I got banned,” she says. PSPCA Board President Harrise Yaron says she has no knowledge of a ban or cruelty allegation against Boritz.

Staffers and volunteers report having to sign confidentiality agreements in order to gain access; longtime rescue partners have been locked out of the database; panicked employees worry about members of the board of directors reading their emails. Given Boritz’s situation and tales like that of Dr. Murarka—the PSPCA head vet fired last month after allegedly providing vet services to a kennel under investigation for dog-fighting (PSPCA calls it conflict of interest)—insiders say they’re concerned that the fox is guarding the henhouse.

They’re scared for the animals and for themselves if they speak up. They’re worried that the whole situation’s so politically corrupt that animal welfare will soon backslide into medieval times—which in Philly, was just a few years ago.

 

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1. Ashley Doyle said... on Apr 21, 2009 at 08:48PM

“Thank you for reporting on this important issue. The best hope animals in Philadelphia have for improved conditions and live exits is for the public to become knowledgeable about the quality of life in animal shelters.”

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2. Concerned Kitty said... on Apr 21, 2009 at 10:44PM

“I'm happy that these issues are finally seeing the light of day, as things at ACCT are truly very bad right now. However, I feel that the reporting in this article is less than objective and paints a simplistic and biased picture of the facts on the ground, using some sources that many, many rescuers and professionals in the Philadelphia animal welfare movement would immediately say are not credible. PSPCA has royally screwed up many things since obtaining the contract, but it isn't right to paint a rosy picture of PACCA and present PSPCA as the evil villain in Philadelphia animal welfare. This situation isn't that simple.”

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3. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 12:01AM

“Recently animals were coming in the front door of the PSPCA and going right to the euthanasia room as the shelter was overflowing. I want to know if these animals were first entered into the system and will these numbers show up on their euthanasia statistics? Or are these numbers being hidden like so many other things? No one is saying that PACCA was perfect but they were extremely rescue friendly. Many times PACCA employees called our rescue personally to ask if we could squeeze in a few more bottle babies. PACCA also vaccinated upon entry and their partnership with the U of Penn Vet School was outstanding. Anyone who fosters knows to expect that some will not make it. Unfortunately the majority of our pulls form the PSPCA are not surviving. Our rescue does not mind laying out money to provide the best in medical care for these kitties. However many of our very experienced fosters are now refusing to accept cats that come from the PSPCA.”

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4. Karla said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 12:33AM

“Margaret Boritz of the "Margaret and John" dynamic duo of routinely performing spays and neuters at PACCA/PAWS ??? And Garrett Ellwood who's claim to fame was organizing a big protest over the website description of the the City's request for proposals in the aftermath of the PACCA disaster? Granted PSPCA/ACCT is no picnic either but please - consider the sources. Also if you want to question statistics, the formula for both save rate and live release rates are published on the PSPCA/ACCT website. These are the same formulas used by PACCA/PAWS and every other shelter reporting data per the Asilomar Accords.”

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5. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 02:35AM

“Recently animals were coming in the front door of the PSPCA and going right to the euthanasia room as the shelter was overflowing. I want to know if these animals were first entered into the system and will these numbers show up on their euthanasia statistics? Or are these numbers being hidden like so many other things? No one is saying that PACCA was perfect but they were ---Philadelphia must Ban breeding. sorry there is no way to save them all, Write any storie about that.Making spaying mandatory will make phildelphia a no kill city. Thie PSPCA is doing a great job, we must not scary a great animal shelter away. The system is not Failing , the people in this city that should have never had animal in the first place are.

Spaying must be made mandatory, Citizens for a No-Kill Philadelphia must rally behind that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but for now we must deal with the true , no matter how much it'' such''

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6. Reality Check said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 03:54AM

“What a jaded, one-sided article Murtha has written. I'm so sick and tired of the smear campaign against PSPCA - the ONLY SPCA in the state who has bothered to launch investigations into cruelty, abuse and puppy mill cases and instead is being blamed for not being able to fix a broken animal control program and facility, coupled with an uncooperative public, quickly enough. The number of animals being surrendered has increased dramatically over the last 5 months yet those stepping up to the plate to adopt has dropped - both due to nationwide economic woes. It is unfair to blame one agency for the current companion animal crisis, or the unfortunate need to euthanize pets, when there is no more space and no new foster or permanent homes on the horizon. Furthermore, to assume that within a five (5) month period ANY agency would be capable of "fixing" the mess created by PACCA is not only unreasonable, it's childish and ultimately does a disservice to the very animals these nay-sayers are claiming to be advocating for. As an active advocate in the state, I'm ashamed to call those who made this article possible my colleagues since egos, vendettas and animosity have replaced the necessary human compassion, cooperation and creativity needed to help the city's homeless animals.”

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7. DogFriend said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 06:46AM

“Why are there no comments or interviews with those who are actually over at ACCT? The people that actually know what is going on and are doing that hard and heart-wrenching job every day. They put in 12 or 14 hour days trying to fix a broken system that they inherited. Citing anonymous sources and then uninformed anti-PSPCA blowhards does not tell the full story. If there are questions about the vaccinations protocol, talk to the doctors. If there are questions about what happens to the animals that are transfered to the PSPCA, go talk to the shelter managers over there.

Seriously, some journalistic efforts beyond just citing those that are too busy yelling and complaining to actually do anything for Philly's animals.”

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8. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 07:41AM

“DogFriend, do you really think if you knock on PSPCA's door, that the people upstairs will open the door and say "Welcome in! Let's talk about how we screwed up!"? Seriously! I'm still laughing! AS a former "DFE", unless you are in our shoes, you have no real idea. The"DFE's" as we affectionately call ourselves, had this right and predicted from the start. As hard as it is to swallow this really HUGE pill, the published reports are indeed, correct. It's your call to entertain the idea that these things are factual. None of us are gloating. It's a shame what has happened to the biggest PA humane organization. THe animals suffer from ego trips, not the humans. For those who remain anonymous, thanks for at least having the cajones to speak out.”

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9. Simba said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 07:46AM

“It seems that whichever organization takes on the city contract for animal control is always getting trashed by the "media." What a waste of time and energy incited by a small group of zealots trying to further their own agenda. It's easy to exploit the weaknesses of yet another humane organization's problems with animal control but what's the alternative - to get the city to form another unionized PACCA? Give these people a chance - it's only been a few months for cryin out loud and of course there will be transitional issues. Why not write about the efforts of those who are indeed helping and not fanning the flames of an already volatile situation?”

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10. DogFriend said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 07:49AM

“Tammy,

You should really be looking for a new job instead of harping on the PSPCA. As you live across the state, as well, I am not sure what in the world you can possibly know about ACCT or Philadelphia animal control.

I am just suggesting that the reporter actually try to talk to those who are involved. Why no quotes from anyone actually at ACCT? That's ridiculous.”

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11. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 08:30AM

“I belong to a rescue group that they no longer call because we don't pull the same day. we need 24 hrs to find a foster home and when we did, the dogs are always so sick, it is heartbreaking. if you foster for them, your pets get ill . it is very sad because i know people that work there and they are afraid to speak up. in this economy, no matter how much you love pets, you have to work.
what howard did for puppymills ???? no, bill smith had a lot to do with that, howard just jumped on the bandwagon and wanted good tv for animal planet.
as a society, we should be ahsamed of how the pets are being treated and first and formost, the people breeding irresponsibly, owners not spaying/neutering and cruelty. people in this city should hang their heads in shame!
we should compliain and the mayor should step in and do something.”

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12. Concerned said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 08:58AM

“I am just amazed that there is absolutely no real oversight from the City going on here. I've been hearing about the terrible conditions that PSPCA has imposed since its new reign and it is horrifying that the City is so willfully turning a blind eye. I expect more from our Mayor and his administration. There is no excuse for this.”

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13. tellthetruth said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 09:38AM

“Dogfriend: it seems employees are afraid. Board members reading emails. According to the article interviews were cancelled. If true, that might be why there are no ACCT quotes.

I just read Stu Bykofsky's article on "chaos at animal control". The Board President used the same response in that article. "I am unaware" or "I don't know". Where is the interim CEO or Karen Miller, listed in Stu's article as the Director of ACCT.

I have lived in Philadelphia for 15 years and it is so sad. It seemed like the last two or three years the PSPCA was moving in the right direction, but now is off track or in trouble.

I am a legal secretary and animal lover. I simply could not find the recent lawsuits that the reporter is referring to, but like many folks, I am glad the PSPCA is cracking down on cruelty. There are a few old lawsuits, but I don't think that statement about lawsuits is valid.

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14. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 09:40AM

“Actions speak louder than words. Take action by doing one of the following:

Adopt an animal: http://www.pspca.org/adoption_centers

Become a foster parent or a volunteer: http://www.pspca.org/careers/volunteer

These are things that the public CAN change. Take action!”

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15. Shelterviewer said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 10:12AM

“I have been following this saga from the beginning and find this article very interesting. More interesting though…are some of the comments that are stated for both sides. I can only state my personal opinion, and that is I tend to believe most of this article as it is written. I do not believe PACCA was the savior to animal control, but I also feel that it really is absurd to say that the PSPCA was taking over something so broken and horrible that this is why things are the way they are. The economy cannot be blamed as much as people seem to want to blame it. In fact…the only way to prove such a statement would be to have all of the records of intake made public from ACCT…showing that the reason for relinquishment being the economic situation. Otherwise…blaming the economy is really just a catch all “cop-out” for what ails everybody. I also find it kind of shocking that people always tend to pick and choose things to comment on instead of the entire article as written. For those that argue constantly the article is biased reporting and that no PSPCA were interviewed for the piece, I invite you to actually read the article....”

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16. Shelterviewer said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 10:13AM

“.....Harrise Yaron is stated as saying (yes it is not quoted but paraphrased) that she was not aware of any banning of a person or cruelty investigation into the person. Well…first that shows lack of oversight of an organization, and second it shows that there really is no basis for banning someone. If the PSPCA and ACCT claim to follow the CAPA as written (It is stated in Howard Nelson’s letter to Nathan Winograd, pointed out repeatedly in their RFP, and finally also mentioned in the latest edition of the scoop newsletter in the letter from Acting CEO Beth Anne White) then they are violating their own desires by banning rescue partners without an actual cruelty charge being filed against them. Harrise Yaron is also noted as saying she hopes to have a new CEO in by May. Further evidence that people from PSPCA were approached by the author was when it clearly states that Acting CEO Beth Anne White did not respond to requests for comment or interview. So stating that the author did not try to make contact with PSPCA is really unfounded. Also…larger organizations have some sort of gag order per se on employees where if they are contacted by the press, they have to send that request through a central person. I am personally only in favor of this procedure if an organization is talking about proprietary information. Sure these people are scared of losing their jobs or being able to help. If it is true that this Margaret was banned for no viable reason…then why would they not be afraid of speaking about stuff. What would prevent them from being banned as well?....”

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17. Shelterviewer said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 10:16AM

“.....I realize that any article can be spun by readers to enhance their viewpoint. However, all I would ask is some honesty in asking these people if they feel the same way about the Philly Inquirer never running any article that even remotely questions the PSPCA?? Either every other news outlet that covers them is wrong….or they are favored by the Inquirer. That’s fine if that’s the case…but again it should be known. As far as the article itself, well there are things written in it that concern me about ACCT. The first is the reporting of statistics. I would actually have loved to see the author publish the actual formulas used by PACCA and then ACCT for save rate. If there was a difference between them, then it should have been made available for the public to see. I also am a little concerned that it seems to take over a month to report on statistics from the previous month. The software used by the PSPCA is straightforward, and all information regarding statistics should be able to be compiled the day after the end of the month. We are also not talking about MIT like math formulas here to figure out save rate. So when I see a delay of that long getting stats out the public…it makes me wonder about their validity. Animal Welfare Organizations like PSPCA or any other Non Profit should really have nothing to hide. Sure the city cannot mandate that PSPCA turn over their own records of intake, but they shouldn’t have to ask. If the PSPCA has nothing to hide, then there is no reason their intake numbers can’t be shown. It would put an end to the doubt once and for all.....”

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18. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 11:03AM

“Garrett Elwood----I am so tired of listening to your ridiculous ranting everywhere! Anyone can start a Website!!!! What makes you think that you are so qualified to speak up anymore than anyone else or those that work at ACCT. You are no better than any other rescuers, foster parents, shelter volunteers or animals lovers. Oh I forgot your in construction!”

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19. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 11:04AM

“In regards to the dynamic duo, I, John have never performed a surgery on an animal. It is illegal and these accusations only further prove how little people know about the truth from the times of PACCA as well as the times of ACCT. What is known are the numbers regarding save and rescue from the times of PACCA. At almost 4 months into the contract, I ask all of you to look into the save numbers and treatment provided by the current organization. What you will find is a huge difference between what was promised in order to obtain the contract, versus what is ACCTually being offered. Sorry for the pun. There is actually nothing funny about that organiization”

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20. Disgusted...... said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 11:13AM

“I am sitting here after reading this article and I am sick.!! Tara why not set up a apponinment and go in and take a look for yourself instead of listen to the 2 people who hate the PSPCA...where did you get your degree from?? Stu came down to PACCA and talk to us and looked around and got the real story. Yes I know it is not perfect but if the citizens of Philly would learn how to take care of their animals (getting them fixed, NOT tossing them out like they are trash b/c they do not have enough time or we just had a baby) this becomes our problem...we are the ones the volunteers, the staff that spend hours and hours trying to find homes for adoptable animals. I do not care about all the SH** that is talked DO SOMETHING about it!!!! Volunteer your time!!!!!!! Donate money!!!!!!! Foster!!!!!!!!!

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21. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 11:33AM

“The truth is finally coming out. But I want to say something to the people who say, give money, volunteer, foster, adopt well I did ALL of the above and would still be doing it except that because I made one phone call after a raid that the PSPCA did I was told by employees at the branch of the PSPCA where I volunteered, fostered, and adopted animals that Chad Weaver said I was banned from there. Now what is so horrible about caring about the animals that were part of a raid??? What is so wrong about caring so much about the animals??? I have emailed the PSPCA, Beth White to be exact hoping she would shed some light on why I was banned but of course I had no response from her. Now what is next when you try to help and no one will respond or even contact you???”

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22. KRD1984 said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 11:46AM

“I adopted a kitten last year from PACCA's Hunting Park location.She was healthy cute and all. In December for her boosters I deceided to get her tested as a precaution and then a vaccine for Feline leukemia. She tested postive. I also adopted a dog the year prior from the SPCA that turned out to was being trained to fight when she was rescued. She just got nastier and even though we took her to every possible trainer she got worse. I understand that these places have so many animals coming in and out and that you have bastards who in this city like to have these animals fight but they don't realize the heartache they can cause. I had to put my cat down three weeks ago because she was so sick and maybe if they tested her like they should have beforehand I woudln't be heartborken now.”

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23. Shelterviewer said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 11:55AM

“Sunshine is the best disinfectant…and until things are made clear and transparent…well…we are always going to be having these conversations and not moving forward. I realize for most people it is much easier to just sensationalize aspects of things and throw around accusations instead of just looking at the cold, and often boring, old stats. I’m a simple person with a simple desire of all in this situation. STOP IT!!!!! Stop acting like children in all of this!!!! It serves no purpose.”

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24. Shelterviewer said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 11:56AM

“If you have accusations of wrongdoing (such as supposedly Margaret and John actually doing surgeries or whatever)…then produce viable and tangible proof. If you have accusations that people are just out to denounce an organization…have proof ready. If you are going to be the backbone of an article that shows severe lack of duty and care to the animals, and possibly false statistic reporting…then be prepared to have the data or proof to back it up. If the PSPCA claims it has 40 rescue partners it works with…then make that list known…and update it as necessary. It’s really not that hard to do. However…it’s much more fun to do it the other way. I have said this from the start…and will repeat it yet again. NO ONE ORGANZIZATION HAS ALL THE ANSWERS, CAN SOLVE THE CITY’S PROBLEMS, PROVIDE A NO-KILL CITY, OR IS WITHOUT FALICY. This is a point that to me is still lost on the struggling PSPCA. Whatever the reason for it…they would be far more respected I think if they realized it, admitted it in public, and committed themselves to making things better. The train to better humane treatment is not a one locomotive deal. It is a 2 mile long connection of many different cars all contributing to the ultimate goal. If you cut that two mile long chain of cars off at the beginning…then all those cars contribute nothing to the cause…mostly through no fault of their own. Maybe I do hope for too much. But I am glad that the organizations I am involved with see this point…and work to forge relationships with groups they trust…and not burn bridges because of ego.”

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25. DH said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 12:02PM

“Hmmmm - some of these pro-pspca comments are very interesting - so interesting, in fact, that I'll bet many are being posted by pspca and health department shills. He philly weekly - how about taking a quick look at your site logs to see where these posts are coming from?

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26. ha! said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 12:15PM

“Its all about the money. PSPCA had 3 million reasons to assassinate the character of PAACA and do the backroom deals with corrupt city politicos. Just like Chainsaw Al Dunap he got the contract and then resigned to spend his bonus money. The PSPCA shills and employees will fill list comment list, on PSPCA instructions and time, but the truth is out there, they wanted the money and the control and got it, and the animals are screwed over and end up paying with their lives. Business same as always.”

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27. Megan said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 12:44PM

“This article misses the point entirely. I live in the Easton area and a rescue friend sent this to me to read. I have done rescue for many years and while we have to always keep an eye on how local shelters are treating the animals, the problem starts way beforehand. Where are the articles talking about irresponsible pet owners who dump their so called family members on shelters for a littany of selfish reasons including: we had (or are about to have) a baby, we are moving, we are suddenly allergic, we are too busy, blah, blah, blah. Focusing on the efforts of rescuers and animal control to get this situation remedied misses the main point: this didn't have to happen. People could have kept their animals. How do I know? Because after years of dealing with owner relinquishments I can safely say that a teeny percantage of people dumping animals are doing so because they actually cannot take on the responsibility. Most are just looking for an easy out for convenience sake. Top that off with continued ignorance about the importance of spaying and neutering and you have a situation where there are overflowing shelters and rescue groups while said owners get off free and clear. Who holds them responsible? They are the problem. Focusing all our energy on shelters and rescues is like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound.”

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28. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 01:34PM

“acct is 10x better then pacca @ tara.DERBY FU PACCA”

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29. Gypsy said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 01:58PM

“Karla wrote: Also if you want to question statistics, the formula for both save rate and live release rates are published on the PSPCA/ACCT website. These are the same formulas used by PACCA/PAWS and every other shelter reporting data per the Asilomar Accords.”

Yes Karla, but the truth is in the person entering the data.”

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30. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 02:02PM

“It’s interesting that this article surfaces shortly before the contract for animal control expires on June 30, 2009. If anyone connected with the former PACCA/PAWS and current PAWS believes that they can do a better job, I say go right ahead. The PSPCA doesn’t deserve to be the media’s designated whipping post when it comes to animal care and control in this City.

For those who really care, volunteer, adopt or foster. Action, not words.

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31. JB said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 02:03PM

“FYI: Act/PSPCA were asked both by phone and email for information for this story and wouldn't cooperate. They had a chance to tell their side of the story and did not take it. Second PSPCA claims to have 40 rescue partners that regularly take animals. I would like to see a list of these rescues and the numbers that they pull each month published on the PSPCA website. How hard would it be to do that? It would be easy since all that information should be in their data base.”

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32. Gypsy said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 02:05PM

“Dogfriend---Tammy Kerr's comments (#8) really annoyed you---what's the matter?”

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33. JB said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 02:06PM

“I just want to add that even though I am disgusted at the things going on at the PSPCA I have continued and will continue to foster all the animals that I can from there. The animals are the ones suffering and changes need to be made to this system immediately.”

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34. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 03:42PM

“Dogfriend,
Did I strike a nerve? I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but it is P-E-N-N-S-Y-L-V-A-N-I-A SPCA, not PHILADELPHIA SPCA. I DO live across the state. By your comment, are you suggesting that my opinion and donations do not matter because of my location? And are you insinuating to all Pennsylvanians that their opinion does not matter either, due to their location? See, with all due respect, I actually WORKED for this organization as a humane officer. What was your position? I knew what PSPCA was about. And I stood up for the truth, irregardless of how hard it was. I say kudos for Tara for reporting the truth. Tis a large pill to swallow. The truth is the truth, whether we like to hear it or not. That is a sign of integrity, not being a blowhard. Thanks though.”

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35. DogFriend said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 04:01PM

“Tammy--

Your location does matter in terms of city-funded animal control. You are not a constiguent nor an expert. And I truly doubt that you are a donor. And you were fired from your job. I am sure you were GREAT at it.

Again, please focus on your local animal issues and stop trying to pretend that you know anything about a city where you've probably spent three weeks.”

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36. DogFriend said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 04:01PM

“Tammy--

Your location does matter in terms of city-funded animal control. You are not a constiguent nor an expert. And I truly doubt that you are a donor. And you were fired from your job. I am sure you were GREAT at it.

Again, please focus on your local animal issues and stop trying to pretend that you know anything about a city where you've probably spent three weeks.”

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37. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 04:44PM

“Ahhh, I DID strike a nerve! Good. See, I have learned that is when people take notice. And I was not fired, feel free to leave an e-mail address and I will happily forward my resignation letter. That is, unless you already posess it. I was great at it, thank you for the compliment! See, I taught people how to care for animals, it's called education. And it would have behooved PSPCA to educate themselves before biting off more than they could chew. PSPCA runs animal control, and they run a humane organization across the whole state.This article is not strictly about the animal control part of PSPCA. I have never passed myself off as an expert. I am humble. But I am educated enough to know that the loser in this pissing match is ultimately the animals. And it actually took me LESS than 3 weeks to know that PSPCA was not what they claimed. You seem to know alot , let me know when you are done hiding behind a fake name and say who you are. I'm not afraid. Until then, enjoy your evening!”

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38. Bethsoda said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 04:49PM

“I keep trying to post and it isn't working! Is there a word limit? This is a test run.”

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39. Bethsoda said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 05:00PM

“I will try this in pieces then:

To Dogfriend in particular: I live in Philadelphia and a former friend of mine who will be referenced later works with ACCT. In addition, my parents have their own rescue agency - Treetops Rescue - who had been working with PACCA and still is working with the Delco branch of the PSPCA and just two days ago got a dog out of the PACCA who is sick (surprise!) and getting sicker.

A (now former) friend of mine who currently works at the PSPCA, with ACCT, was telling me the other day about problems that are coming about because of the new or interim CEO. There was a meeting last night and my friend feels like some issues got resolved but we'll see how long that lasts, especially as one of the issues was that apparently this certain woman felt that the Lifesaving department was bad mouthing her behind her back - something about a blog saying "slanderous" things (I haven't seen this blog, but if it's true, it's not slander!) - and so she had started blocking many of their efforts to save perfectly adoptable animals. This included actively blocking a rescue from taking a dog and killing the dog instead AND telling them that they had to take down all of the rescue advertisements they had been posting on craigslist. So essentially she was pissed because she thought they had something to do with this blog and felt like that gives her the right to fuck with the lives of perfectly adoptable animals? My friend now wants me to let this go, as she doesn't want to rock the boat and is hoping things will get better but with petty behavior like that, it's not seeming like it will.

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40. tellthetruth said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 06:11PM

“Bethsoda: if that is true, you need to take action. Who is the woman who is blocking adoptions and lifesaving activities? Can you report this information to the Board President? Regarding the new CEO. He/She has a hard job, but it seems like things are out of control. I read Toriball and Stu Bykofksy today in addition to the Philadelphia Weekly article.

Kerr: Your posts are on Toriball. You sound a little incoherent to me and based upon your own posts, you only worked at the PSPCA for a few weeks. FUPSPCA email address. Rude.







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41. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 06:17PM

“The PSPCA should not have a problem with volunteers posting their adoptable animals online at Craig's List. They should encourage them to find creative means of getting animal's information out there--good homes may result. No matter where the animals are advertised the adopters still have to meet certain requirements for adoption.”

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42. Gypsy said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 07:01PM

“Dog Friend wrote---in regard to Tammy Kerr: "And you were fired from your job. I am sure you were GREAT at it."

Ok DogFace---Let's talk about Howard Nelson---what CEO resigns? How about Dr. Murarka? Mmmmm---They were great at their jobs too!
rofl! rofl!”

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43. Gypsy said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 07:07PM

“And for the record Dog Face, Tammy Kerr resigned---she was not fired---
get your facts straight before you post. Instead of posting your bull here---why don't you do some serious rescue work, volunteer, or foster---get a real taste!”

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44. Anonymous said... on Apr 22, 2009 at 08:50PM

“Ha! This is great! Not for the animals, but for the people! It's high time someone shed some truth on the crap the PSPCA does on a daily basis. I, too am banned from the SPCA. I've donated, adopted, fostered and rescued!! My day came when Howie, Chad, Elaine, and all their croonies decided to give me the boot. Things were never logged, animals were euthanized daily. The numbers would make a person sick!! Heart-sticks were done on a daily basis! YES, HEARTSTICKS!!!! I know because I watched my co-workers do it, and that is the way we were taught to do it! Real humane, huh? No? Are you disturbed? Well, wake up and smell the coffee people! This is the truth! It's time the PSPCA stop worrying about what other rescue groups are doing, and take of the HUGE problems in their own backyard instead of trying to fudge paperwork, and cover things up! The animals are the ones suffering here! We'd all be better off if the just shut the PSPCA facilities down!”

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45. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 03:12AM

“Amen to #51. I also volunteered at a branch of the PSPCA and what #51 is saying is the truth. Thought the PSPCA meant the Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, well they are as cruel as you can get. People lets stand together and stop this horrific treatment of animals. They don't deserve it, the animals are the innocent ones, they don't deserve this.”

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46. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 04:44AM

“tellthetruth, interesting name. Good thing it's not HEARTHETRUTH, or you'd have to change that name! Well, I won't be part of your pissing match either. That is the great thing about being truthful. It doesn't matter who likes what I have to say, it is what it is. And I worked for PSPCA from June 6 to Sept 9. In case you need help counting, I broke it down for you. It's really 13.5 weeks. A little more than your 3 weeks you gave me. Now, IN those 13.5 weeks, I was sent on 57 ILLEGAL humane calls and was ILLEGAL in 21 counties. Do you need THAT broken down? I could have faced 9.18 YEARS in jail, for acting as a Humane Officer ILLEGALLY. And all upstairs personnel knew what they were doing. It didn't matter to them. If my post resemble rants, I think I may have a slight right to be miffed, seeing how I could be writing this from the SLAMMER! Duh! Again, walk a mile in our shoes. 2 other agents got fired, I was in court for being ILLEGAL. Need anything else clarified? Check out Pocono Record. Unless you think THEY are embellishing the truth too. Wow, alot of liars out there.....All with the same story, now that is consistancy at it's finest! As for my e-mail address, I love it. It speaks volumes. Rude is killing animals because you are acting like God. Again, come out of hiding with who you are! Have a great morning! : )”

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47. jer said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 05:08AM

“Tammy--
What does this have to do with the current PSPCA administration and ACCT? Those of us who do rescue or sheltering in Philadelphia have a lot of hard work to do and all of your personal slanders and accusations are a distraction. If you haven't worked at the PSPCA since the early fall, that was way before they got the contract. So, stop acting the authority. I get that you are upset about whatever went down with your job...but you are not constructive. Thanks.”

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48. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 05:47AM

“jer,

What it has to do with the current PSPCA administration is that most of the Admin when I was there is STILL there. They were wrangling for the contract when I was there and got it after I left. Do you think that they woke up one day, right before the contract was offered, and looked at each other, saying, "hey, let's go for the PACCA contract!"? Slander is the use of words and phrases that are UNTRUE, to damage a person's reputation. I have and keep the documentation to back up everything I say. That is again, the great thing about telling the truth. As for my comments being a distraction, it adds to the validity of what is going on behind the scene. Nothing has really changed at PSPCA. Read the article. Do you think that reporters are going to risk libel and their professional reputation to write a story? Some may. However, when it comes to PSPCA, it's all sadly, true. You do have a hard job to do. And PSPCA shutting down all the shelters because they cannot afford to keep them running financially, doesn't help. But hey, I'd be interested in seeing their 2008 tax return! And I am not upset that I resigned, relieved, yes. You don't seem to get the whole, big picture. The P stands for Pennsylvania, not Philadelphia. They bit off more than they could chew. My comments do not help you, but they do shed light and truth, which does help the public. Get to the bottom of this whole thing and we can all move on to help the innocent animals. They are taken to the shelter to be helped, not catch an illness and die.”

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49. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 06:07AM

“If the PSPCA wants to shut down all their branches because they can't afford to run them then GREAT. Let rescue groups in each area take over the buildings and give the animals the chance for a good life and loving homes not to be treated as cruel as they are now.

Maybe the PSPCA could financially keep the branches running if they didn't spend their money on extravagant lunches, dinners and parties. Spend the money on the animals that is what it is meant to be spent on anyway.”

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50. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 06:15AM

“Well stated, #57. Today, as I go to work, enjoying the sunshine on my face, I will say a prayer for the animals. They are His creatures.”

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51. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 06:46AM

“Jer - what's that stand for? Jerk? I too have proof that I kept about all the ILLEGALITIES that the PSPCA has done! So, tell Elaine, or Chad or whomever is paying you to dig out info on who is writing things about the PSPCA that I said "HI"! And as for "Slander" - It's not slander if it's the truth, and I would put my life on it!”

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52. Nonsense Eliminator said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 07:59AM

“"If the PSPCA wants to shut down all their branches because they can't afford to run them then GREAT. Let rescue groups in each area take over the buildings and give the animals the chance for a good life and loving homes not to be treated as cruel as they are now.

Maybe the PSPCA could financially keep the branches running if they didn't spend their money on extravagant lunches, dinners and parties. Spend the money on the animals that is what it is meant to be spent on anyway."

Not to mention all the legal fees.... those lawsuits add up... just sayin'...”

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53. George....George.... Glass! said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 08:07AM

“I'm noticing that all of the PSPCA employees and board members who are posting here are NOT USING THEIR OWN NAMES. You are all criticizing people and the author for not using names - AND YOU ARE NOT USING YOUR OWN. Hello Pot, It's Kettle calling.rfft
If you truly believe the twaddle you are writing - USE YOUR OWN GODDAMNED NAME. Or hire Karl Rove - I hear he's in the job market right now - that would be about par for the course for you people.

To Bill Smith and Jodi Goldberg: Your creative writing efforts are less than believable as to be coming from "the public". Either get some ghost writer assistance or cease and desist. That execrable website the two of you created to lambast PACCA in order to skew public opinion ( I reference PACKALIES, oddly no longer available as of the day after PSPCA was given the contract.) was not only a PACK of LIES but also poorly constructed. Goes to show - Money really isn't everything.....”

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54. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 08:26AM

“What has happened to these comments, the numbers are all screwed up. #57 is not on there and #51 is different than it was earlier this morning.”

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55. What Can I Do? said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 09:09AM

“I am an animal lover who has recently been considering volunteering my time in some way. What I feel is missing from this article is a call to action, and any guidance on how/where someone who cares about animals could actually help them.”

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56. anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 09:42AM

“Garrett, How do you know PACKALIES was done by Bill Smith and Jodi Goldberg? Or are you just stirring up trouble without any facts.

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57. George...George...Glass! said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 09:58AM

“Hi Jodi,

My name, ironically, is actually George Glass. It must be you posting this morning as I know Bill is in court for the Stevenson hearing -
Go on any more raids in that oh so sexy cowgirl getup?

lovely.

All My Best!

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58. anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 10:49AM

“"George Glass": Are you stirring up trouble without the facts. I used to work with Jodi at the PSPCA and she never interfered with animal cruelty or tv raids as you are suggesting.

Just fyi in case the facts matter on this blog....”

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59. George....George.... Glass! said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 11:00AM

“Nope. Not without the facts one bit. Facts are all there. Even tho' The Sisters In Crime sweep everything little thing under the Aubussons doesn't make it ever go away.

Jodi, why don't you tell everyone about your friend who takes unspayed retrievers and poodles and lhasas from shelters for her sideline business?”

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60. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 11:02AM

“#56 it is so refreshing to hear someone write that they want to help the animals.

Hey everyone, lets put all this bashing aside and get together and HELP the animals. Lets NOT be like the PSPCA, lets be better than them and show them that we REALLY WANT to help and NOT destroy.”

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61. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 11:18AM

“"George Glass": Again, I used to work with Jodi at the PSPCA and she never took unaltered animals from the shelter. In fact, just the opposite, she brought them for surgery and encouraged spay and neuter.

Just FYI in case the facts matter on this blog.

All my best.

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62. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 12:03PM

“I think Garrett's group should take over animal control.”

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63. hello.pittie said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 12:21PM

“56. What Can I Do? said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 09:09AM
“I am an animal lover who has recently been considering volunteering my time in some way. What I feel is missing from this article is a call to action, and any guidance on how/where someone who cares about animals could actually help them.”

AMEN. All this article has done is stir up a bunch of bullshit from people who are too angry to do any good. Way to go, Tara Murtha.

Why not disseminate information about how people can adopt, foster, volunteer or donate to animals in need instead of perpetuating this nonsense? Let's move toward the positive here, people. What a wasted cover story.”

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64. tellthetruth said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 01:10PM

“Tammy,

I am a legal secretary for a large law firm in the City (gladly one that is not closing!). My boss and I are fascinated by your claims of 57 illegal "calls" you claim you conducted. Remember, you can not be forced to do something illegal in the United States and you are implicating yourself by posting this information online. For example, you can not be forced to shoot someone and say you are innocent because you were forced to do it; let alone 57 times! Accusing your former employer of this is a very serious crime.

Regarding the case: we could not find a case where you were on trial and facing 9 years in prison as you claim. We did find a case about a property dispute in which you testified, but you were not on trial. You were a witness. It was an administrative procedure whereby the judge ruled in favor of the PSPCA. You simply can not be put in jail without being charged and without a fair trial. As a witness in an administrative case, you simply could not be "found guilty" and sentenced.

We recommend you secure an attorney who might ask you to stop making these claims. Remember, court cases are public records.

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65. cats and dogs are a whole lot of fun said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 02:37PM

“tellthetruth -maybe your firm isn't closing but you sure do have an awful lot of free time to be researching Ms Kerr's statements. Business doesn't sound too good. Does your employer know you are researching this on company time? woo hoo - now I see.....
you also sound a wee bit threatening and not as though you are trying to clear some things up???


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66. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 02:46PM

“Anyone know how I can obtain a list of the PSPCA's 40 rescue partners and access numbers of animals they pulled from Jan, Feb and March?”

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67. Shelterviewer said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 02:49PM

“So now we have gone onto more childish behaviour and even possibly threatening others with legal action in a lawyer way?? Or at least possibly suggesting it?? People talk about no kill philly all the time. I hate to be the honest one...but from all the animosity I see...how could that even be possible?? No Kill is not the priority for anyone in Philly right now. Or at least it shouldnt be. The priority should be getting a group together...a group that does not need either an armored guard or team of standby pscyoanalists to get along...to start doing the basics again. Thats all it takes...seems so simple to me for some reason.”

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68. 1animalfriend said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 02:56PM

“Welll said #73. PSPCA and PAWS need MORE foster parents. Recruit your friends and family. Talk to your neighbors! Ask a loney senior citizen! Let's join together and get those animals out of the shelter and into foster homes or something permanent!! This is action we can take. Together we CAN make a difference!!”

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69. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 02:59PM

“Tell The Truth----How long have you been a legal secretary?
6 months? Dig a little deeper dear.”

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70. tellthetruth said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 03:27PM

“Did not mean to be threatening at all. I was passing on information from my limited research.

Sorry. Signing off.”

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71. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 03:52PM

“tellthetruth, may I suggest you read the blue book-Humane Police Officer handbook. It clearly states that if unsworn in a county, the possiblity exists for 90 days in jail per offense...it's a 3rd degree misdemeanor, and the organization faces a 1000.00 fine per violation. As a matter of fact, in an AP article, the DA or ADA of Allegheny County agrees that being in a county unsworn is illegal. I also personally asked the ADA of Huntington Co and he agreed it is illegal. I was sent into the counties unsworn, I was unaware that I had to be sworn in. However, PSPCA sent me on those calls, that is ironically how I got paid, and PSPCA had already gotten nailed for having unsworn officers in counties illegally. Check the records more thoroughly. My employer should be fined the 57,000.00. I hope they do! I would gladly face the prison time just to have PSPCA held accountable. I also stated that I COULD have faced 9.18 years in jail, not that I DID. Read again. And I would LOVE to have court records made public. As a matter of fact, I will pay any fee that is incurred, just so that the public can see what is going on. Again, I am correct and can back it all up. Bring it. Signing off was the smartest thing you have said to date.”

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72. sick of tammy's yap said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 04:11PM

“Funny how you want the PSPCA to pay $57,000 (post #78 - "My employer should be fined the 57,000.00. I hope they do!"), yet you also "care" for animals (post #8 - "THe animals suffer from ego trips, not the humans." also # 48 - "we can all move on to help the innocent animals. They are taken to the shelter to be helped."). You are so caring to animals, in fact, that you hope that a humane organization - one that I agree is not perfect but still does a heck of a lot for PA's animals - to waste money on fines so that you get your selfish satisfaction. Priorities?

Obviously you harbor an unhealthy amount of resentment towards your former employer. Move on with your life - you might be a happier person for it! I know we all will be.

Also, "irregardless" is not a word.

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73. Bethsoda said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 04:58PM

“To Tellthetruth: I've done the best that I could - my friend and I had a falling out over this. From what I understand that woman was Beth-Ann White, although to be fair, the blame cannot just be put on one person. Supposedly she has stopped blocking those rescue efforts but at the same time, i question the leadership of people who will sacrifice the lives of innocent animals because of their own petty concerns. the CEO's don't care - they say there is nothign wrong, everything is fine. the best thing about the PW article was that it shed some light on all of the secrecy and the employees, like my former friend, being so scared to even speak annonymously about what is going on.

On another note - yes, people can get involved and foster - the problem is that many of these animals are VERY sick and many of the people who foster have more than one animal themselves that they cannot risk infecting. And yes, people can give money, but why would anyone want to give money to an organization that is so closed off? How do we know that the money would be even helping the animals? And as far as volunteering, from what I've heard, it's hard even to get into volunteer becuase things are such a wreck over there. I would volunteer, but I would be able to do NOTHING, plus, I would refuse to sign any sort of a confidentiality agreement. In addition, as my parents still get animals from the PSPCA, I don't want to risk being "banned" becauase I object to the treatment of these animals. Back when we were still friends, my friend told me that she couldn't even go to look at the animals anymore, because she knew that they would be dead before she ever saw them again.”

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74. Bethsoda said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 05:03PM

“And to the "what can I do?" I honestly think, and on this, I know Stu Bykofsky agrees, is to get the word out there - spread the message, put pressure on these people to accept that they need help and guidance and they need to accept that that things are bad if they are ever going to get better!”

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75. anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 05:12PM

“City Council Representative expressed outrage about the current animal control function and announced a probe into the animal control situation today. Jack Kelly is the representative who made the speech and announcement. The story is on KYW 1060 and on their website.

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76. Nadia Adawi said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 05:35PM

“Well, this discussion degenerated in a hurry. At the risk of fanning the flames more, I need to say that this article really alarmed me. I am posting under my real name, I don’t work for PSPCA, I’m just a concerned citizen and animal lover. I had heard rumblings of problems from friends in the local rescue community, especially about the huge incidence of sick animals coming out of ACCT. And I have wondered about the rosy claims Howard Nelson was making in press articles since PSPCA took over the contract. There are some pretty specific allegations in Ms. Murtha's article, seemingly backed up by data. And, although she has clearly formed an opinion that things are not well at PSPCA, I could not see that her views were unsupported. I think Mayor Nutter needs to begin an investigation into how this contract is being managed. If we find that PSPCA’s operations are conforming to the requirements of the contract, I know I’ll breathe easier. But for the sake of Philly’s homeless animals we can't just do nothing.”

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77. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 05:54PM

“sick of tammy's yap, that is soooo funny! That made my day, I am sorry! : ) If only you knew a tiny bit of the whole picture. Tell you what, I will hush for now and let you all go on. But let it be said, I do care about the animals. That is why I became a humane agent. The animals need help. And if PSPCA didn't have most of the shelters shut down, I'd be able to help even more. Until PSPCA improves, I will have to support the local shelters. Have a good evening.”

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78. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 06:01PM

“Nelson has now been gone for over two months now.

It appears that hearings are being called for by City Council Rep Jack Kelly who has been a close friend of PAWS.”

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79. Anonymous said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 07:00PM

“While nothing short of a complete overhaul in the thought process of most pet owners will contribute to better save rates and better adopters, there is a problem with the ACCT. The same people who worked at PACCA work there now. How does anyone expect it to get any better when the same 20 something year olds are running the lifesaving team and making the same mistakes? The new ones are even younger and even more inept at handling and evaluating animals. I believe they all have good intentions and work hard, but that's not enough. They need better understanding of animals, shelters, and Philadelphia in general. They also need to know how to communicate with people trying to help. It's frustrating to try and help, and never get a reply or a surgery date for an animal. I now only foster through other organizations that can keep in touch, have a lot of support, and can handle vet care.

There does need to be more discussion about animal welfare in Philadelphia. It's disgusting and the answer is not to tell others to stay quiet or just to volunteer. I've volunteered for years and have a foster dog sitting with me right now. It's not fixing anything.

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80. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 07:43PM

“Would you people please be a little more patient with your posts---The multiple posts are getting out of control---just give it five minutes---PLEASE!”

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81. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 07:48PM

“"Sick of Tammy's Yap"--6 identical posts---come on now---be patient.”

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82. Garrett Elwood said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 08:02PM

“I am just catching up on the comments. As many of you know, I post under my own name and none of the above comments are mine. I have never met Bill Smith and don’t know who Jodi Goldberg is, let alone have any kind of grudge against them.

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83. Garrett Elwood said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 08:04PM

“The fact of the matter is that many of my criticisms of the PSPCA management over animal control aren’t mine. They come from complaints submitted thought the “watchdog” section of the CNKP website, direct conversations with former and present employees, rescue partners and volunteers. The strongest complaints I have made require no source, but are direct violations of the contract made with the citizens of Philadelphia in the PSPCA proposal accepted by the Health Department.

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84. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 08:04PM

“Phila. Councilman Blasts City's Animal Control Program


by KYW's Mike Dunn

A Philadelphia City Councilman plans a probe into an apparent crisis in how the city deals with unwanted and stray animals.

City councilman Jack Kelly (above), in a speech Thursday on the floor of City Council, blasted the Nutter administration for shifting the responsibility of animal control from a city agency, PACCA, to the Pennsylvania SPCA. That happened last December.

Kelly said this takes the city further from the goal of a no-kill operation:

"…meaning no animals would be euthanized unless medically necessary, not killed just to save kennel space, and not killed just because they weren't cute and fluffy."

So, Kelly plans to hold Council hearings on the situation. He says that since the change, the SPCA is overwhelmed, its director has resigned, and the agency may throw it all back to the city when its contract expires in June.

Kelly said there's no Plan B, and as a result "we are on the verge of potential disaster."

Officials with the Nutter administration say the contract was awarded to the SPCA after a competitive bidding process, and they believe the SPCA will renew the contract for another year.”

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85. sick of tammy's yap said... on Apr 23, 2009 at 08:24PM

“Sorry for the multiple posts! I hit the submit button, then my server froze. This happened a few times. I tried to delete them by flagging them, but that didn't work. It was not intentional. There's enough crap on this board, and I didn't mean to litter it with more of mine :) tammy - that was a joke. I am still sick of your yap.”

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86. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 04:42AM

“Sick, I was not offended. There are alot of people sick of my yap. You are just a mere number in that factor. Listen, I do enjoy the banter. But we aren't really accomplishing anything constructive by nit-picking, and I am as guilty as the rest. How many of you can sit back and watch a dog get beaten and kicked without stepping in? How about seeing a cat flung up against a tree until it falls into a lifeless heap at the trunk? ZERO. And I can't sit back and read about people who think PSPCA is the greatest thing to happen to PA. Bottom line, if my comments piss off enough people to make it better for one, just ONE animal, it was worth it. I would do it a million times. I am way across the state, however I can really help, I truly will. Thanks.”

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87. status said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 07:26AM

“From the Daily News:

"An important partnership that had existed between PACCA and Penn's acclaimed veterinary school was ruptured after ACCT took over. Yaron didn't know what caused the breakdown, but said she would meet with Penn "soon" to try to restore it."

Harrise Yaron, Board President: "the board now is involved and focused."

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88. Anonymous said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 07:51AM

“Love your comment #86 Tammy. You are so right. The PSPCA is truly NOT what it is supposed to be and it is doing more harm than good for the animals. Like you said lets stop the nit-picking and figure out what we can do. If enough of us in this state get together to work out a way to do the best that can be done for the animals isn't that what we should focus on. Those of us that love the animals cannot let this go on any further. WE MUST TAKE ACTION. WE MUST HAVE A PLAN. Lets SAVE as many animals as possible here in PA. We do NOT want to be like the PSPCA. They truly do not care about the animals”

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89. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 09:35AM

“Harrise Yaron, Board President: "the board now is involved and focused."

Well, It is about time..................

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90. Bob Hill said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 01:15PM

“Wow. This piece is really well researched. You drill down so deep into this issue. I've read a lot of pieces over the years about the homeless cat population in the city, but never with this much depth. This is kind of unbelievable, and kind of heartbreaking. Great angle. Well executed. Great piece, Tara. Thank you.”

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91. Charmaine E said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 01:38PM

“I am Charmaine and I am a volunteer at the PSPCA and ACCT. I spend up to 3 days a week there as a volunteer and an assistant to the behavior analyst at ACCT. I see firsthand how much time and effort the staff and volunteers put into increasing the adoptability of the dogs.

We have a a traveling caravan to showcase the adoptable dogs at public places like Whole Foods and PetSmart and Rittenhouse Park. We are also pro-pitbull, and put a lot of effort into breaking breed stereotypes. Steve from WMMRs Preston and Steve is fostering a dog from us and Jen Utley regularly promotes the shelter and does what she can to help out.

I too, am fostering a Mom cat with 4 foster kittens through ACCT and they are all growing and healthy and happy.

We have dog training classes for the public, and volunteer run shelter dog training classes to increase adoptability. At ACCT and we check, recheck and re-evaluate dogs to see any improvements. We DO NOT put down an adoptable dog who has a green light and is ready to go to a home. The girls on the Lifesaving Team are depending on the good natures of fellow animals-lovers to help promote, foster dogs and cats, and help find homes for these animals. Its a cycle, the more each person puts in, the more animals get help in the long run.

The part that saddens me about the article is that the past politics and gossip are now overshadowing the good we are trying to do. Wouldn't it be more effective for the ultimate goal of saving animals if they wrote an article about how much we need help and support rather than highlighting our shortcomings? We need to refocus, take on some personal responsibility and work together as a team and to see what we can do positively to help save animal lives.

Thank you,
Charmaine”

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92. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 02:30PM

“UPDATE: After PW’s cover story ran Wednesday, Councilman Jack Kelly made some remarks about animal control on the floor Wednesday. He then arrived Thursday and delivered an energetic speech citing PW’s research and spiraling conditions for Philadelphia’s animals. Kelly went on to criticize the Nutter Administration and the Health Department for the current chaos and cloudy future of animal control in a full speech accessible here.

Please go to the beginning of this article, and click on "full speech assessible here" to read.

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93. John K. said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 02:35PM

“Poster #91 has it right. The article is gossipy with lots of anonymous quotes, angry past workers and the unrealistic expectation that an organization can turn around an existing infrastructure in what ... 3-4 months? Really?
If the author wanted to spread "awareness" with her article, she could have taken a much more PRODUCTIVE tack, by showing volunteers trying there best and noting the need for more assistance. Instead she chose to tear down an organization that attempts to do some positive work with animals. Painting these organizations as death and disease factories does NOT help spark change. If anything it alienates the workers and volunteers who DO care and work at these places and prompts the public to just dump there animals in the streets with the false belief that their pets have a "fighting chance" there. Ms. Murtha could have extended the greater Philadelphia area reading public the courtesy of getting in the trenches and VOLUNTEERING HERSELF, before tearing down the organization with half-assed reporting. The oft-quoted, but seldom used, "fair and balanced" would do well to serve the purpose of changing the way things are done at SPCA. I hope PW will publish a more even piece showing a more positive light on the animal control situation and those who HELP it here in Philadelphia.”

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94. still sick of tammy but now mad at bob said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 02:53PM

“Wow, Bob Hill. Do you think that every piece of information fed to you by the press is fact? Just because someone has numbers in an article that the article is "well-researched?" Do some research on your own and see what you find.

Charmaine - thank you for everything you do to actually HELP the animals in need. Kudos for all your hard work and positive attitude.”

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95. still sick of tammy but now mad at bob said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 02:53PM

“Wow, Bob Hill. Do you think that every piece of information fed to you by the press is fact? Just because someone has numbers in an article that the article is "well-researched?" Do some research on your own and see what you find.

Charmaine - thank you for everything you do to actually HELP the animals in need. Kudos for all your hard work and positive attitude.”

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96. Anonymous said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 03:24PM

“Posters #91 and #93 make valid points. It appears that the article told the story from one side only. This is not responsible journalism.

Over the years I have volunteered at PACCA/PAWS and the PSPCA/ACCT. ACCT is a major improvement over PACCA -- the animals are fed twice a day, there's a full-time/vet staff and as Poster 91 remarked, there are behavior evaluations and re-evaluations. In other words, everything is being done to ensure that animals are healthy and adoptable. However, these are just a few changes/accomplishments instituted by the PSPCA in a very short time and in a suffering economy.

Rather than the usual diatribes, save your vocal cords and adopt, foster or volunteer.”

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97. Cooke Harvey said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 03:40PM

“Tara,

Thank you so much for dealing with this issue! I have to say it strikes home as 5 weeks ago someone dumped a beautiful Calico cat at our house (in the boondocks) long story short, she was pregnant and now we have 6 beautiful 3 week old kittens - did I mention when I took her to the VET he showed me where there was buckshot in her leg and neck! This is an amazing animal and we are dog people but these felines are ours now! We really need to understand all the issues around why people do this to animals and the economy is only one of them.
Keep up the great reporting!
Cooke”

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98. Garrett R. Elwood said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 06:02PM

“Regardless of the points that some of you are trying to make, a. that the article would have served us all better if it focused on the "real problems" like the irresponsible public, or that b. she, herself, should volunteer or, c. that everyone should just shut their eyes and donate money and foster animals without asking for any accountability or openness and transparency, this article speaks the truth. The reason why many sources aren't named (and the author points this out) is that they are all afraid to loose their jobs.

Wake up people. Beside the fact that all the PSPCA positive posts here are most likely from their board president or her twin sister, who is also on the board, or other PSCPA. The PSPCA has taken some really great progress made by PACCA and turned the clock back YEARS back to a day when "the executioner" assigned random Kill dates to animals based on their intake time and managed the inventory as if they were fruit at a supermarket.

Rescues are being intimidated, foster animals are dying at an unprecedented rate, volunteers and employees have to sign a confidentiality agreement, their CEO resigns after 6 weeks, Medical Director fired a few weeks later for less than understandable reasons, Owner requested Euthanasia cases are killed and not counted against their save rate, save rates are unverifiable because we have no idea what happens at Erie ave, Euthosol logs don't match inventory, animals are being deleted out of the system, Board members and managers aren't aware of basic dog-law, CEO and Board President have "no knowledge" of rescue partners being banned from facilities or of the stay hold being applied to cats and extended to three days!

It's really easy to just say that Tara Murtha is being one sided. It's harder to think through these issues and realize that she is right.”

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99. Paige Turner said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 06:27PM

“yawn ...”

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100. cholita said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 07:05PM

“The PSPCA and ACCT declined interview requests. No one from the PSPCA returned her calls.
They had every opportunity to be a part of this article. To go on record and explain or refute the accusations. Instead they chose non response.
It is absolutely unfair to say that Ms Murtha is one sided in her reporting. It is valid to say that the PSPCA chose not to participate.”

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101. Anonymous said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 08:15PM

“It's hard to believe the author is not biased when you google her name and see her Facebook page where's she's friends with Tara Derby (former head of PACCA) and Garrett Elwood.”

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102. UNBELIEVABLE said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 10:04PM

“Don't forget Facebook friend Johnny Pastor - recently fired from ACCT and Tara Derby's second in command at PACCA/PAWS.”

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103. eb said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 10:26PM

“Poster 101 (Anonymous)
How could you possibly post a comment so shallow and misinformed about TWO people who have done more for the the ANIMALS of Philadelphia than anyone CUBED (just so everyone knows that Tara Derby is the ONE who coined the name for PCCC). If anyone else wants to continue to be ANONYMOUS and even try to enter a comment on this WELL RESEARCHED article CONSIDER your opinoun Anonymous (and thats a Compliment)”

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104. JB said... on Apr 24, 2009 at 11:25PM

“re posting #101: That is a really stupid comment. I'm friends with lots of people but that does not mean that I agree with everything they do/stand for. There is no reason for what is going on at PSPCA right now. When you approach them to discuss a problem and offer a solution they show you the door. If they have nothing to hide then why are they being so secretive? Show us a listing of the 40 rescue partners that they work with and the amount of animals that these rescues have pulled each month since January. If they would vaccinate animals as they came in the front door spread of disease would be drastically reduced. U of Penn vets told them that and they still aren't doing it. Why does the U of Penn refuse to work with the PSPCA?”

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105. Garrett said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 06:15AM

“Great minds talk about ideas, average minds talk about events, small minds talk about people. -Eleanor Roosevelt.

Which catagory are you? (re: 101, 102)

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106. Anonymous said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 07:57AM

“sorry testing as our comments are not posting?”

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107. bwatson said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 09:07AM

“Why are our comments not posting?”

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108. Garrett R. Elwood said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 09:08AM

“there has to be a character max, try posting one paragraph at a time...”

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109. bwatson said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 09:20AM

“Getting back to a major point of Tara Murtha’s story, it was alleged that the majority of cats pulled from ACCT are (or become) sick and that rescue partners who once pulled from Hunting Park will no longer do so or do so in a very limited way. Both are true. I represent 2 of those partners. Yet recent posts say that the PSPCA/ACCT ensures that all animals are healthy. I respectfully disagree, but am puzzled why anyone would hide behind a wall of anonymity to make such a benign claim. What do you stand to lose by simply assuring rescue partner that their pulls are healthy?

But my primary concern, however, is that my ability to save cats from Hunting Park is grinding to a halt. The reason for this is that my foster network, for whom I’ve pulled cats for years, have said “no more”. Let me provide some facts which substantiate my claims.

I pulled over 130 cats from ACCT in the first 3 months of 2009. I pulled 21 more cats on 4/8/2009. Through March, I am pulling cats at a rate in excess of 500 cats per year. This number of pulls is typical of what I have done in years past. Most kittens/cats I’ve pulled this year have become deathly ill, many have died. Our mortality rates today exceed that of anytime in Hunting Park’s history, going back to 2003. I pull the majority of bottle babies from Hunting Park and have done so for years (both PAWS and ACCT would confirm this). I have 2 foster homes that exclusively foster bottle babies. They have over 20 years experience. But their seemingly magical ability to save the most fragile of these little ones has evaporated in 2009. One of these foster homes has lost 18 of 18 bottle babies this year. Another has had only a few survivors out of a couple dozen. Virtually every nursing mom I pulled this year had to be separated from their babies within a week because she came down with the most serious form of the calici virus.

This is a crisis. Someone please explain to me why it is not.

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110. Garfield said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 09:38AM

“Help! I am trapped in a shelter and they already euthanized Nermal, Odie, Marmaduke, Snoopy, Fred Basset and Dennis the Menace! Somebody save me! But if you don't have lasagna, I'd rather die.

Poop.”

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111. Anonymous said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 12:45PM

“#111 You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about a crisis situation. There have been numerous kittens struck with FIP at one of the branches of the PSPCA where I am located. I think that the main reason for these kitties getting FIP and other communicable diseases is there is NO isolation room for new cats and/or kittens. The isolation area that this branch had is not being used. Why??? Who knows. The branch manager Chad Weaver told the employees not to use that area. Now the cats/kittens that come in off the street have to go into general population. Now don't get me wrong to my knowledge there is no test for FIP but every shelter I have seen or been associated with or even rescue foster homes has an isolation area to keep the cats for at least 7 days. No cat and/or kitten is tested for FIV/Feluk, none so what does this mean. Cats and/kittens can be adopted and the owner is not aware that they may have a disease. There is no veterinarian care here, only on the rarest occasion. When the previous manager was there the animals did go to the vet if need be but no more. I could go on and on and on but my point is that you are right the PSPCA does have a crisis on their hands and what are they willing to do about it. I bet NOTHING. Again they just let animals suffer.”

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112. Anonymous said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 01:01PM

“The PSPCA and Philadelphia in general have never stopped being in a crisis. Do you realize that 31,000 intake of animals each year is higher than any other city in the USA except Los Angeles? Holy cow people, how much can you really expect? You dump your animals in the thousands on this shelter and expect them to do miracles. This criticism is nothing new, when PAWS had the city contract it was the same rock throwing. You people expect the shelter to first, save every animal that comes in, then be politically correct with the public at all times, while all the public can do is send in people looking for things that they're doing wrong. I personally feel that no one may criticize the shelter without first helping it either through donation, foster, volunteering.

You could equate this to the Parking authority. You hate to see them near your car and may even yell curses at them. But they are there because of your mess up. Well, the shelter has to exist people, only because of your mess up. And your mess up is 31,000 animals a year! So stop waiting for the government to step in and do something, we've had the contract change 3 times over the last 15 years, that doesn't help matters. Try a new tactic, only adopt dogs you can keep, and help out the animal shelter your self. The shelter is fighting a losing battle because of the overwhelming intake you people put on it. Imagine working in a job that you work really hard at because you believe in the welfare of animals, only to never be able to do enough and on top of that, have the public tell you what a bad job you're doing.

Shelters only have to exist because of the bad people who fill them with their pets. Philadelphia should be ashamed, not attacking the shelter. It's like being homeless and attacking the soup kitchen for not being efficient enough.”

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113. Anonymous said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 01:10PM

“My criticism of the article is "Animal advocates bring them here to save them from sometimes fatal dangers of living on the streets". I volunteered for PAWS at that shelter for 2 years and I gotta tell ya, 99% of the people who surrender animals at the shelter are surrendering their own dogs, they are not animal advocate life savers but just the opposite, people who buy dogs from a back yard breeder and discover that they can't handle a dog after all. Others are dog fighters who want to unload their dog that lost a fight, their excuse is 'i just found him this way, he's not mine'. These are awful awful people.

Another point: in most areas of our country, the problem of animal overpopulation is a mix between 2 things
1. puppy mill breeders (centered in Minnesota, Oklahoma, and our own Omish in Lancaster County) who mass breed the dogs and sell to pet stores with a high incidence of genetic defects that people then pay over $1000 a dog to buy without realizing they're supporting puppy mills.
2. once people buy a dog, they don't realize the responsibility that comes with it. They give it up if they have a baby, move, suddenly get allergic, can't afford the minuscule ASPCA estimated $500 cost a year to own a dog, or are surprised to find that puppies are energetic and will ransack your house.



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114. Anonymous said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 01:14PM

“However, in Philadelphia, while we do have the above 2 problems, our main problem is dog fighting and the profits of back yard breeding. This happens in the poorer, and I'll say it, African American sections of the city (P.S. 99% of the people abandoning their dogs at PAWS in the past 2 years were black, at some point you have to judge). People living in these areas breed pit bulls either for fighting, for selling, or for bait dogs. They breed more than they need/can sell and these dogs end up as hunger starved strays walking the streets. The result is about 70% of the dogs in the shelter are pit bulls. These people further promote the misplaced idea that this breed is inherently evil by raising them to fight. People have short memories, the pit bull used to be America's favorite dog: remember the dog in 'our gang', how bout the dog in 'little rascals'? Furthermore, any dog can be trained to fight if you raise it that way. Ever see police dogs attacking? they are german shepards. Ever see old WWII flicks of attack dogs? Those were Rottweilers. So 70% of the number of dogs in the PSPCA shelter are due to the surrounding neighborhoods doing already illegal activities. The solution to the shelter problem is not to demolish the PSPCA, it’s to enforce laws to reduce the dog intake numbers. But wait, our police force can’t do that because they’re too busy solving the 2 murders a day that the poorer sections of the city commit. These people are causing the problems, not the PSPCA.”

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115. Anonymous said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 01:16PM

“However, in Philadelphia, while we do have the above 2 problems, our main problem is dog fighting and the profits of back yard breeding. This happens in the poorer, and I'll say it, African American sections of the city (P.S. 99% of the people abandoning their dogs at PAWS in the past 2 years were black, at some point you have to judge). People living in these areas breed pit bulls either for fighting, for selling, or for bait dogs. They breed more than they need/can sell and these dogs end up as hunger starved strays walking the streets. The result is about 70% of the dogs in the shelter are pit bulls. These people further promote the misplaced idea that this breed is inherently evil by raising them to fight. People have short memories, the pit bull used to be America's favorite dog: remember the dog in 'our gang', how bout the dog in 'little rascals'? Furthermore, any dog can be trained to fight if you raise it that way. Ever see police dogs attacking? they are german shepards. Ever see old WWII flicks of attack dogs? Those were Rottweilers. So 70% of the number of dogs in the PSPCA shelter are due to the surrounding neighborhoods doing already illegal activities. The solution to the shelter problem is not to demolish the PSPCA, it’s to enforce laws to reduce the dog intake numbers. But wait, our police force can’t do that because they’re too busy solving the 2 murders a day that the poorer sections of the city commit. These people are causing the problems, not the PSPCA.”

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116. Anonymous said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 04:28PM

“We were very surprised by this recent article for several reasons. The operations at the animal control shelter at Hunting Park (HP) are portrayed as if they are a high security military installation where confidentiality agreements are supposed to be signed by staff and volunteers, and were everyone is so afraid to speak out that people needed to call the writer from untraceable public phones. In addition, health and other conditions are portrayed as so bad that this made the animal control shelter hardly recognizable to us. This makes us wonder, did the writer actually visit the shelter herself ?

It is odd, as we are a group of volunteers currently active at the animal control shelter and some of us represent some (but certainly not all) of the most involved volunteers on site since PSPCA took over the animal control contract. All of us have also volunteered for PACCA/PAWS and some of us continue to volunteer for PAWS. Oddly, none of us were approached to comment for this article. In addition, none of us was ever approached or asked to sign any confidentiality agreements. To even think that any of us would have ever signed such documents is an insult, if you knew us. (continued)

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117. Anonymous2 said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 04:29PM

“The few named sources in your article were strong supporters of the former animal control provider PACCA, individuals who fought hard to retain the contract. While those individuals may still have important information to share about current operations at PSPCA, they are not exactly independent sources of information. Other quotes, for example by Nathan Winograd, were clearly taken out of context to anyone who has been following what has been going on in Philadelphia. While in no way do we want to minimize some of the concerns voiced in this article, some of which were clearly valid several months ago and some of which may still be valid, many of the concerns raised have been corrected, or are in the process of being corrected as able. Actually, in the case of the cats, precisely because some of the excellent points made by some folks like Margaret in a meeting she and several other rescue partners (including several of the undersigned, a representative from the health department, a member of the press, Lifesaving department at ACCT, etc.) were invited to back in March to voice concerns and suggest improvements, several changes in medical procedures have been implemented as a result.

Indeed, isn’t the fact that such a meeting was even held (in the beginning of March), in which some very strong criticism was voiced and accepted by the board members present, not a contradiction to the article’s claim that the organization is highly secretive? In addition, the board approached current HP volunteers and asked for a list of ALL concerns and ideas for improvement, that current volunteers complied and submitted to the board. (continued)

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118. Anonymous3 said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 04:30PM

“Sadly, the article never even focused on any of the improvements that actually have occurred since the contract was taken over. The facility is indeed much cleaner, there are more kennel staff (volunteers used to do 90% of the dog kennel cleaning under PACCA at night and now maybe do 10%) and a significant increase in lifesaving staff. In addition, there is a full time veterinarian and the medical communication system regarding at least sick dogs, has very significantly improved as compared to the past. With regard to dogs, the overhaul of the building including the new ventilation system installed by the PSPCA and medical services have indeed improved the health of the dogs, and we are seeing fewer cases of kennel cough and hardly any cases where the kennel cough has advanced to pneumonia, which was not an unusual occurrence under the previous provider. Foster care providers have the choice to utilizing the vet services at the Erie avenue location at no cost for their foster animals and these services extend past the routine medical care and spay/neuter services offered in the past.

As an article that was clearly only interested in portraying the negative results of the switch in contract to the PSPCA it is sad and puzzling that several of the most important current problems were not even addressed.

To us these are: No new CEO yet with a clear vision to work towards making Philadelphia a No-Kill City. The loss of the Penn Vet program. An overwhelming intake of animals combined with a sagging economy resulting in more animals being surrendered and dropping adoption rates, a lack of volunteers, and the main problem of medically and behaviorally evaluated adoptable animals at ACCT currently not visible to the public until they are transferred to the PSPCA Erie location for adoption. All indeed significant issues currently discussed and worked on by several PSPCA staff, board members, and volunteers. (continued)

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119. Anonymous4 said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 04:31PM

“In these times we think that this article, besides indicating an alarming lack of journalistic integrity, is actually harmful to the animals of Philadelphia. We volunteers and the completely dedicated and hard working ACCT/ Hunting Park PSPCA staff are trying very hard to recruit more volunteers needed to help with giving quality care to the animals at the shelter. We also desperately need more foster providers for animals, especially now during the overwhelming onslaught of kittens soon to be expected during kitten season.

Who is going to volunteer for an organization as portrayed by your piece? We can only hope that the citizens of Philadelphia have had enough of ego driven animal politics in this city including divisive and harmful slandering and bickering between individuals and organizations/constituents and come together to work together for the sake of the animals that cannot speak for themselves. This includes speaking up. We are not writing as supporters of the PSPCA or any other organization or personality. We are hopefully writing as supporters of the welfare of animals, trying to maintain objectivity and a rational voice. Please come and volunteer either with us at the PSPCA and/or other organizations such as PAWS, rescue, help with spay/netuer clinics, and/or become a foster parent.

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120. Michelle, Petra, Marian, Greg, Christine said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 05:38PM

“Anonymous 1, 2, 3, 4,posts 119-122 had to be broken up to post.
We are also going to send this as a letter to the editor

By the way somehow it cut of our names:

we are Christine R. , Marian M., Gerg C., Petra K., and Michelle H.”

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121. Garrett said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 07:07PM

“Hey guys, the main issues you bring up in post 121 are great and I agree 100% with you. Thanks.

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122. cholita said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 07:34PM

“Ah. Now we're hearing from the Fabled Citizens' Advisory Committee. It seems that we are made up of disgruntled former PACCA volunteers.
This keeps getting better and better - careful Ladies, don't think you are put in this group because you dissent and point out flaws. Keep that up and you'll be out in the cold.

That being said, I wish the PSPCA Board the best of luck in the interview process for the CEO position. It's up to you now to make an informed choice based on experience and love of animals - someone who is knowledgeable in the management of a shelter - medically and operationally, a good, positive and hardhitting player who is respected and valued by a local and NATIONAL audience.
I look forward to the coverage of this process - you promised it. Remember that.”

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123. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 09:12PM

“Well, gee Cholita---I think the position of CEO should go the Nathan Winograd---What do you think? You are looking for someone who has a love of animals - someone who is knowledgeable in the management of a shelter - medically and operationally, a good, positive and hardhitting player who is respected and valued by a local and NATIONAL audience. Sounds like a winner to me..........”

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124. cholita said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 09:27PM

“Ah well, Eagle, Nathan Winograd really isn't much of a do-er - more of a posturer, it seems.
I can't really picture him taking on this kind of mess. Too much chance of failure. And that wouldn't really work out for him with his book sales now would it?
No, I don't think Philadelphia and the PSPCA need another media whore. I thnk they need someone who is less about air time and more about getting down to work building relationships between organizations. Winograd really doesn't have that kind of track record. Man likes to criticize too much!”

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125. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 25, 2009 at 09:39PM

“Cholita---I love your description of Howard Nelson---priceless!!!!

No, I don't think Philadelphia and the PSPCA need another media whore.”

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126. Petra , Michelle, Marian, Greg, Christine said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 07:24AM

“Hi Cholita....we, as a group, are not the "famed citizens advisory committee" ; nor are we (or were we) anti PACCA. And we are not all ladies either :-)

It is interesting that pointing out flaws with one organization gets you branded "anti something" or, in this case, "disgruntled former PACCA folks" but when you are pointing out flaws with another ; you get told that that is not really what you are doing... Indeed you get told that if you speak out "too much" (whatever that is), that at some point you maybe kicked out, as if that would not happen under PACCA or really any other organization either....

Every organization has different tolerance levels for internal dialogue that is critical of the organization itself. So lets see how much of this the PSPCA welcomes, accept and tolerates. And we agree, lets hope for a new CEO that welcomes some of this and who has a proven positive track record with shelter management.

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127. cholita said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 11:24AM

“Ladies,

If I remember correctly, it wasn't that you were speaking out "too much" but, in fact, you were playing at pyschology in a forum where it was unwelcome and deliberately creating divisivness. Common trick in corporations, that: Create a problem so that you can "solve" it. Or in your case, prattle on endlessly and meaninglessly with your pyscho-babble.

I would like to see you do some real work instead of "creating dialogues" that will only serve your endless need for attention. If you had actual accomplishments to back you up, people might listen instead of tuning you out.

Tiresome.”

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128. cholita said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 12:32PM

“and I said "Fabled" not "famed"

entirely different.”

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129. Garrett said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 12:41PM

“I am very interested in finding one or two "issues" or points that we can all agree on and form an issue based partnership around those specific items. Sounds like we have some agreement in the CEO search, care to explore this further? I am willing to speak to one or all of you to see if we can find common ground and work together. Let me know.”

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130. Anonymous said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 05:40PM

“Hmmm...extending a olive branch while spitting darts at any chance since the transition. Excuse me for thinking how disingenuous. That's not how diplomacy works, bud. One thing volunteering has taught me not encountered in professional life; there is an absurdity of counter-productive babble by self-posturing "authorities". I stand behind the efforts of the PSPCA, although not perfect, it has impressed this city dweller with its determination and competence. I hate to add to the banter, but feel pressed when obvious ludicrousness presents itself.”

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131. Patricia Llyod said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 05:45PM

“whilst i commend the actions of people such as Ms. Boritz, and of course deplore the state of animal welfare in PA as a whole, i would add a note. Ms. Boritz has undertaken the daunting task of taking in as many as thirty to forty cats in her house at a time, ostensibly to save them.

this is indeed noble, but many who are concerned for animals are also concerned for their quality of life issues. and as one who is involved in placing relinquished animals via a nation-wide network, i know that we would be suspicious if a person was a "frequent flyer". i do not mean to imply that Ms. Boritz is at fault, abusive, or in any other way other than altruistic. however, her zeal may not always serve her purpose, nor the needs of the animals she seeks to adopt.

FYI, i am the proud owner of many strays (past and present) and am in school for animal behavioral studies. part of my studies include the hours i will volunteer to the shelters, helping re/train dogs, to help them be placed. this is not a requirement of the school, but they recommend it: the primary reason that animals are relinquished, is behavior related.

it also bears saying that we are one of, if not the top "puppy mills" area in the States, here in PA. perhaps a bit of the anger and disgust could be aimed at changing the legislation, closing stores that sell the mill animals (e.g Monster Pets), or at least requiring certification ( i know, a bit of a joke) of bred animals before purchase...the rest would be adopted from shelters, if the cost of a cert was split by breeder and customer. in a perfect world, of course!”

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132. Margaret Boritz said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 06:22PM

“Ms. Lloyd. I do not know you, but your comment is shocking and untrue. I don't keep these cats in my house - I work with a foster network who is committed to caring for cats from animal control who are deemed unadoptable. We work with those cats ( supposed "bite cases", fearful cats, feral kittens that can be socialized, sick cats with treatable illnesses) who are not the "prime choices" for other rescue groups because they are not immediately adoptable. The members of our network take in fosters until they are ready for adoption. They are placed for adoption and then they take another couple of fosters. Many people do this.
If this is your real name, please tell me when you have been to my house or my workshop and where in god's name am I keeping these 30 to 40 cats????
To do that would be both illegal and unhealthy.
In addition, I can't help but think that this post is an attempt to picture me as a hoarder. Your use of the word "ostensible" implies your doubt of my rescue work and negates it.
As far as "frequent flyer" goes, Ms. Murtha exaggerated with "combing the shelter every day" - I normally went to ACCT on request of the Lifesaving Department to transfer cats who were in danger of euthanasia and ultimately treatable. It was about once, maybe twice a week.
My attempt to alert the Health Department and the PSPCA Board to the illness situation at the shelter was at the combined request of other rescues who were panicked at the illness rates of the animals they were pulling for rescue. I did it for the animals - because those groups were talking about ceasing their pull efforts from ACCT because they couldn't afford to treat all of these animals for illness.

Your "commendation" is false and a backhanded attempt at slander.
How dare you.

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133. Anonymous said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 07:17PM

“PACCA lied about their save rate and many of the dogs they did get out ended up at facilities operated by people convicted of animal cruelty (Faithful But Forgotten and Almost Heaven). Moyer's shelter medicine program? Why wouldn't Moyer's hospital allow PACCA's sick dogs into their facility? They collect funding for the program, don't they? And George - how did you get along with your board in Washington?”

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134. Anonymous said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 07:22PM

“PACCA lied about their save rate and many of the dogs they did get out ended up at facilities operated by people convicted of animal cruelty (Faithful But Forgotten and Almost Heaven). Moyer's shelter medicine program? Why wouldn't Moyer's hospital allow PACCA's sick dogs into their facility? They collect funding for the program, don't they? And George - how did you get along with your board in Washington?”

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135. Anonymous said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 07:34PM

“Great story by Tara!

It's nice to see Philly Weekly writing about issues that matter.”

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136. Anonymous said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 08:08PM

“Hey, Councilman Kelly, why would you praise Michael Moyer's shelter medicine program? It was an unqualified disaster. Dogs dying in their cages at night after being operated on that day. Animals unable to stand up, going days without any medical treatment. PACCA volunteers frantically posting the sickest cases on craigslist and begging rescues to get these animals out because no one was treating them. You call that "world class," Mr. Kelly? The ASPCA cut off all funding for Moyer's program when they found out how bad things were. Do we really want to go back to that? Let's give the PSPCA a chance. And not for a minute do I think Margaret did any surgeries on those animals - her hands are too big.”

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137. Anonymous said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 08:23PM

“I don't belive Margaret is doing any surgery either. Her hands are too big.”

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138. Garrett said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 08:42PM

“More small minds.”

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139. cats and dogs are a whole lot of fun said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 09:17PM

“well now we've truly hit rock bottom with this thread. Anyone who wants to know what Howard Nelson is doing with his free time these days??? Just look here - up to his usual tricks.
You people are exhausting in the worst sort of way. You want to know why the public doesn't get involved more in animal rescue?
I would say it's the petty sad people who are infesting this comment board.


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140. Anonymous said... on Apr 26, 2009 at 10:25PM

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141. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 02:45AM

“Margaret Boritz, I sure would like to get hold of you since you really seem to know how to handle ferals and how to socialize kitties. I am doing the same thing but have a couple of quesions about socializing kittens.

See we can network together for the good of the animals and forget the bull that has been flying around.”

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142. Bryan Langlois aka Shelterviewer said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 05:37AM

“Ok...I agree that this thread has really deteriorated. While I have stayed anonymous for a while...I just cant anymore. I am a shelter vet in PA, the medical director of the Humane League of Lancaster County, and I have made my desire to be CEO of the PSPCA known to Harrise Yaron. I have submitted my resume and so far have only been told the board is evaluating and pooling all the applications. I still have yet to get even asked to come for an interview. I have just under 15 years in the shelter world...involving myself in all aspect of the shelter and its operations. Have I been CEO of an organization...no. Do I come for the world of normal CEO stock so to speak...no. What I do have is a wealth of information on shelter operations, including animal control, that I have amassed over those 15 years of being at different shelters on the east coast and Canada. All I am asking for is a fair chance at an interview. I represent the newer generation of outside the box thinking...and think that is exactly what the PSPCA needs. I hope to at least get a chance to interview...but time will tell.”

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143. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 06:57AM

“Bryan Langlois, sounds to me like you really deserve a chance at least for an interview for the CEO of the PSPCA job but don't hold your breath. All I was waiting for is a response to an email I sent to Beth to find out why I can't volunteer anymore at the shelter and she has NEVER gotten back to me. Now with kitten season approaching very fast you would think that these people would jump at the chance to have someone VOLUNTEER who has done it before, for over 2 years to be exact. But like I said because I made one phone call showing that I cared about the animals Beth nor anyone else will even give me the courtesy of an email let alone a phone call.

Good Luck Bryan, you deserve it.”

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144. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 08:50AM

“Brian, you sound like exactly what they need. I heard Paul Berry also applied. He was the CEO of Best Friends Animal Sancturary in Utah. I just hope they look forward instead of hiring more people from the past, which is all that has happened so far.

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145. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 09:12AM

“Bryan Langlois is hardly part of the "newer generation of outside the box thinking." He is close friends with Moyer whose shelter medicine program lost PACCA the contract in the first place (all those sick animals). If Bryan was hired, it would be just more of the same. No, we need an innovator. Someone who will put the welfare of the animals over politics and Bryan is a committee member - nothing more. Besides, he has alienated too many people. The new CEO should be able to deal with a lot of different organizations and a lot of different people.”

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146. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 09:30AM

“OMG - these comments just keep getting better and better! I for one would not be hiring a blogging vet for CEO of my organization but hey - that's just me.”

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147. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 09:49AM

“I agree with #146. A blogging vet for CEO? Not very professional, but very amusing.

What the PSPCA really needs is a plumber to take care of all the leaks at ACCT.”

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148. CJ Patches said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 10:07AM

“With regard To Anonymous 1/2/3/4 (posts 116 to 120), I must say that I am truly puzzled with your 4-part blog. I have been following this story closely and have found these entries very interesting.

To begin with, I’ve read the original story published by Ms. Murtha, word for word, multiple times. I think anyone reading this story, certainly anyone who cares about the welfare of animals within the city limits, will agree that Ms. Murtha makes some very serious allegations.

While I don’t believe that you need to be familiar with the apparent rift between PACCA and the PSPCA to be outraged by these allegations, it is quite disconcerting that the PSPCA CEO, perhaps the strongest advocate for transferring the contract from PAWS to PSPCA, bails out 6 weeks after receiving the contract. The CEO position is then filled with a part-time volunteer?

Ms. Murtha alleged that the PSPCA animal control system was failing, as did Stu Bykofsky when he referred to PACCA as the “House of Horrors”. Karen Miller was affectionately referred to as “The Executioner”, hardly an endearing quality that an objective story would use, don’t you agree? Writers can allege anything they want. That is their job. Good writers are those who are proven correct. Only time will tell if Ms. Murtha is correct. She presented more than enough information that, if true, any reasonable person would come to the same conclusion. Would you not be horrified if all these allegations were true? But the only people who can refute these allegations have chosen silence.
You express disappointment that you were not interviewed for this story. But the truth is that Ms. Murtha could have interviewed every PSPCA volunteer, past and present, and every former PACCA volunteer, and the story would not change.
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149. CJ Patches said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 10:07AM

“With regard To Anonymous 1/2/3/4 (posts 116 to 120), I must say that I am truly puzzled with your 4-part blog. I have been following this story closely and have found these entries very interesting.

To begin with, I’ve read the original story published by Ms. Murtha, word for word, multiple times. I think anyone reading this story, certainly anyone who cares about the welfare of animals within the city limits, will agree that Ms. Murtha makes some very serious allegations.

While I don’t believe that you need to be familiar with the apparent rift between PACCA and the PSPCA to be outraged by these allegations, it is quite disconcerting that the PSPCA CEO, perhaps the strongest advocate for transferring the contract from PAWS to PSPCA, bails out 6 weeks after receiving the contract. The CEO position is then filled with a part-time volunteer?

Ms. Murtha alleged that the PSPCA animal control system was failing, as did Stu Bykofsky when he referred to PACCA as the “House of Horrors”. Karen Miller was affectionately referred to as “The Executioner”, hardly an endearing quality that an objective story would use, don’t you agree? Writers can allege anything they want. That is their job. Good writers are those who are proven correct. Only time will tell if Ms. Murtha is correct. She presented more than enough information that, if true, any reasonable person would come to the same conclusion. Would you not be horrified if all these allegations were true? But the only people who can refute these allegations have chosen silence.
You express disappointment that you were not interviewed for this story. But the truth is that Ms. Murtha could have interviewed every PSPCA volunteer, past and present, and every former PACCA volunteer, and the story would not change.
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150. CJ Patches said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 10:08AM

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Can volunteers clarify issues with “fuzzy” numbers? Can you tell us what happened to 786 animals transferred from Hunting Park to Erie in the past month or two? Or how animals are entered into the system and transferred from one database to another? You said that “an overwhelming intake of animals combined with a sagging economy resulting in more animals being surrendered and dropping adoption rates”. If this is true, then how do you explain increased save rates?? More animals surrendered, fewer adoptions, but save rates are rocketing up? Your statement was meant to prepare readers to expect more animals to be euthanized; all the while your administration is telling us things have never been better. Is this not the least bit suspicious to you? You needn’t be a rocket scientist to understand that something isn’t quite right with these statistics.

In getting back to other allegations, can you talk about vaccination protocols? Can you explain to the citizens of Philadelphia why a part-time volunteer is the CEO of one of the largest animal control facilities in the world?

You commended Ms. Boritz for cooperating with others to change and improve upon medical protocols. Can you explain while Ms. Boritz was banned from ACCT?

You said: “Sadly, the article never even focused on any of the improvements that actually have occurred since the contract was taken over”. While these improvements may be commendable, they are completely irrelevant to the point of the story. You are trying to change the focus of this story. This story makes serious allegations about the PSPCA’s handling of the animal control contract. Please address these allegations. Everything else is fluff.
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151. CJ Patches said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 10:10AM

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If U of P veterinarians and renowned no-kill authority Nathan Winograd are willing to talk about these allegations, why isn’t the PSPCA? If Mr. Winograd’s words were taken out of context, why doesn’t the PSPCA tell us that and point out the flaws in his statements. But no, they will send you, the volunteers, scrambling to change the focus of these charges to building improvements and “trying hard”. You, the volunteers, are being used as pawns in a ponzi scheme.

This story is not about PSPCA volunteers. It has nothing to do with you. This is about a breach in contract. While it is commendable that the 5 of you will defend allegations leveled against the PSPCA, you cannot address any of the issues that this story hinges upon. Only the PSPCA Board and PSPCA administration staff can do that.

You went to great lengths to discredit the author. Hopefully you will blog your quadruple-post letter of outrage to your PSPCA Administrators and Board of Directors for throwing you to the wolves. Your leaders have sent you to the front lines of this war without guns or ammo, while they securely hunker down in their air-conditioned bunker waiting for this entire fiasco to blow over.

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152. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 10:52AM

“I'm not exactly sure what a blogging vet is, but if you imply a veterinarian in the shelter world that likes to give opinions on topics via a blog, then I guess I am guilty as charged. I am also a vet who understands the needs of animals in pennsylvania. I'm a vet who has dedicated his life to this profession and the shelter/humane aspect of it. I'm someone who has spent the past 4 years forging relationships with all aspects of the animal welfare community, from foster groups to veterinary help. I'm not asking for anything more than the fair shot every one of us should get. Ive made myself known (and yes...I agree...should have a long time ago). The ones that think I am nothing more than a blogging vet...I would ask that you make it known who you are. Humane Organizations and Shelter environments are very unique and all have their problems. It takes someone with knowledge of sheltering...the good and the bad...to get things done. If people feel that my merits stop at being able to use a computer and blog...well...then they have no idea who I am or what I have accomplished. But everyone is free to their opinion.”

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153. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:01AM

“A large shelter, such as the PSPCA, is comparable to a corporation. There are many layers and numerous personalities. While a veterinary degree is a plus, a CEO's responsibilities also include, but are not limited to, management, finance and fundraising.

It seems to me your qualifications and experience are better suited at this stage of your career as a shelter medical director. Perhaps you could move on from there.

Good luck in your job search.”

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154. Joe the plummer said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:07AM

“Did someone say that animal control is looking for a plummer with media experience? As you can see I also do blogs. AND I have a dog : )”

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155. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:16AM

“You have to wonder why Dr. Lamglios is leaving his present position.”

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156. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:20AM

“Dr. Langlios: Maybe you can put your resume under the windshield wipers of cars at your local supermarket. My nephew found a job as a lifeguard that way. Better than blogging for a job. And a little classier.”

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157. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:29AM

“I am not leaving my current position. I am applying for a position that would allow me to use some of my other talents, besides just veterinary medicine. If I am not selected...then I will just maintain my position here. As for that question...could one not ask the same thing of anyone that is brought into an organization as CEO or other administrator (unless they were promoted from within)?? Of course people will question what is going on...thats the nature of humanity. I'm not perfect..and don't claim to be. Anyone who comes in to an organization thinking they are or they have every single answer is, quite frankly, delusional. I agree with the poster who stated that a humane organization is very much like a larger corporation. However...Humane Agencies are also very different in the fact you are not dealing with the animals lives first and foremost. Yes the place has to be run like a business...and there are many people in an organization that make that happen. Thats what makes an organization really succeed. Its not always the CEO...its the people below him/her that are in the trenches making it all work. I have the experience in animal welfare and sheltering that the PSPCA needs. As far as being able to work with many people...I have proven that anywhere I have gone. As far as the poster who says I allienate too many people...I ask 2 questions. Who are these people you speak of?? and Who are you?? I think I have an idea, but I will not stoop to the level of throwing insults at people. I have already proven that I can build relationships with a ton of people. Will I please everyone..no. No one can. That again is the nature of humanity.”

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158. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:41AM

“Friendship is an important thing. Piss off somebody, and their friends will hate you, too.”

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159. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 12:04PM

“To those that seem to feel I am blogging for a CEO spot...well...I submitted my application like everyone else that I guess wanted to. I did this back in the beginning of the year...as soon as I knew they were looking. As far as me announcing it on a blog, if it classless that is a persons opinion. A lot of people in Philly and on this blog itself are saying that the next CEO should come from the shelter world and have an intricate understanding of it. I am letting them know someone that fits that desire has applied. Whether I get accepted for interview or not is up to the Board. I'm not campaigning for the common man here...I'm just answering allegations against me for announcing something. As far as the friendship comment...that is true and very important. However, if those friends do not talk to the person the initial person is angry at...then they are only kind of getting their version are they not?? Wasnt that the initial complaint of a lot of people on this forum...that the article was biased??”

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160. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 12:04PM

“To those that seem to feel I am blogging for a CEO spot...well...I submitted my application like everyone else that I guess wanted to. I did this back in the beginning of the year...as soon as I knew they were looking. As far as me announcing it on a blog, if it classless that is a persons opinion. A lot of people in Philly and on this blog itself are saying that the next CEO should come from the shelter world and have an intricate understanding of it. I am letting them know someone that fits that desire has applied. Whether I get accepted for interview or not is up to the Board. I'm not campaigning for the common man here...I'm just answering allegations against me for announcing something. As far as the friendship comment...that is true and very important. However, if those friends do not talk to the person the initial person is angry at...then they are only kind of getting their version are they not?? Wasnt that the initial complaint of a lot of people on this forum...that the article was biased??”

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161. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 12:24PM

“Bryan, I read you comments when you were "Shelterviewer"---I was wondering who that could be..........Good Luck to you......I hope you get that interview.”

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162. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 12:37PM

“The PSPCA could use a plumber for all those leaks at ACCT. It seems that these folks have no problem cashing a paycheck.”

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163. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 01:49PM

“Many people are posting but the last post is 12:37, more than 2 hours ago”

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164. joeldermole said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 03:48PM

“Test.”

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165. Anonymous said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 04:10PM

“no more than 300 words per post.”

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166. Shelter Volunteer89 said... on Apr 27, 2009 at 07:24PM

“I'd bet it'll just be another former PSPCA employee back from the dead or worse yet a former PACCA employee! Why is this city so backward? I swear I have never seen anything quite like it.”

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167. Tammy Kerr said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 05:00AM

“Wow! There is a wealth of information in these blogs! I am impressed. Don't know Bryan, but he seems to have a head on his shoulders. The new CEO doesn't have to be liked. Look at Howard! Just PULEEEEEEZE!!!! Don't ask Howie back!”

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168. Catlover said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 07:19AM

“No-Kill is important, but that's a long way off right now. We need a dynamic leader who can mend fences and bring this community together.

Whoever mentioned Nation Winograd, I think we should remember how his last pick did at PACCA. Just ran around like a chicken with his head cut off. No, we need a new direction.”

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169. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 07:33AM

“Bryan--My only concern is that do you know how to cry those crocidile tears in front of the cameras during a "rescue"? The ex-CEO has been described as a "Media Whore". You know, the main concern of the PSPCA is to keep those BIG donations rolling in.....make sure that you practice those acting/begging skills.”

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170. Anonymous said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 07:54AM

“As anyone who has ever worked for a non-profit will tell you, "BIG donations" are essential. In the instant case, these "BIG donations" are helping supplement the ACCT budget.

Quote: Dick the Butcher, Henry VI (Part 2).”

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171. Anonymous said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 07:58AM

“To your list of "Media Whores," add the names of the former PACCA/PAWS staff and volunteers, many of whom have posted here. While professing objectivity, they are motivated primarily by self-interest and a desire to see ACCT returned to the former PACCA group of incompetents.”

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172. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 08:11AM

“To all that were worried about my possibility of getting the CEO job, you can all rest easy as I know there is no way I will get the position. I have that on authority of people in the know. So fear not all of you. You all do not have to worry about this member of the "committee" being in charge of things. As far as the big donations go. Yes that is completely true, but just as important are the smaller ones...the 5 or 10 dollars that people give to make a differnce, but won't give more because they almost can't afford to even give the 5 bucks. They are putting the animals welfare ahead of their own a lot of the time. Everyone who donates is deserving of praise and gratitude...from the millionaires down to the ones stricken by poverty.”

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173. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 08:17AM

“And the BIG donations are helping with their salaries, legal fees, severance packages..........shall I go on?”

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174. Anonymous said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 09:42AM

“Bryan - Maybe you should post your resume on craigslist? Find a job that way. I feel for anyone who is out of work in this economy. Not sure what you did to lose your last job but we wish you the best!”

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175. Anonymous said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 09:42AM

“Bryan - Maybe you should post your resume on craigslist? Find a job that way. I feel for anyone who is out of work in this economy. Not sure what you did to lose your last job but we wish you the best!”

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176. DogsJustWannaHaveFun said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 09:45AM

“Hey Bryan -

Don't feel too bad about it - This has nothing to do with you or your qualifications. It doesn't even have to do with the "Anonymous" posts that attempted to bash you.....
In fact, you are probably overqualified for the position.
The person who has already been hired, making anyone's efforts to actually apply, pointless, is none other than Sue Cosby, former Disgruntled PACCA employee and current director of AWA in NJ. Since their annual intake is a whopping less-than-2500 animals, it should be a breeze for Ms. Cosby to handle the entire State of Pennsylvania as well as the 31,000+ surrended animals for Animal Control this year.
Always a Bright and Shining Personality with the Public and a Demeanor that is worthy of a bar fight or two, we can all look forward to the bridge building her reknowned diplomacy will bring to an already burdened animal rescue community.”

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177. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 10:10AM

“To all those that seem to think I am homeless living in a van down by the river or something. I'm not. I have a perfectly fine job here at the Humane League being their medical director. Not sure where this whole thing of me being desperate for a job is coming from...but just wanted to be honest on that. Plus I am a vet...trust me...there are always jobs available for veterinarians in this country.”

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178. Anonymous said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 10:33AM

“That's right, Bryan. Put a on a brave face. You have nothing to be ashamed of. A lot of people are out of work. Its not your fault. And you're a vet - that's really sad. This country should take care of those brave men and women who served our country.”

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179. Anonymous said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 10:33AM

“That's right, Bryan. Put a on a brave face. You have nothing to be ashamed of. A lot of people are out of work. Its not your fault. And you're a vet - that's really sad. This country should take care of those brave men and women who served our country.”

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180. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 11:35AM

“Anonymous said regarding Bryan: And you're a vet - that's really sad. This country should take care of those brave men and women who served our country.”

Bryan said: Plus I am a vet...trust me...there are always jobs available for veterinarians in this country.”
Anonymous----he said VETERINARIAN not MILITARY VETERAN!
geeeeeeeeeez!”

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181. Anonymous said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 12:47PM

“Last week Barry Stupine of the UPenn vet school announced he was going to be running the PSPCA. I would assume that is the CEO position.”

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182. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 28, 2009 at 08:26PM

“Well let's see----who will be the next CEO---Sue Cosby, Barry Stupine.....does anybody else want to throw in some names?”

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183. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 05:51AM

“Cosby will be great for those PACA supporters. Just what we need a former PACA COO who lost the euthanasia log which was a major reason why the Health Department pulled the contract. She will most likely bring back all the PACA management.”

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184. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:57AM

“You're thinking of Tara Derby. Ms. Cosby left PACCA long before the Health Department decided to issue the RFP.”

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185. 1animalfriend said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 07:50AM

““…Most kittens/cats I’ve pulled this year have become deathly ill, many have died. Our mortality rates today exceed that of anytime in Hunting Park’s history, going back to 2003….

“…2 foster homes that exclusively foster bottle babies. They have over 20 years experience. But their seemingly magical ability to save the most fragile of these little ones has evaporated in 2009. One of these foster homes has lost 18 of 18 bottle babies this year. Another has had only a few survivors out of a couple dozen. Virtually every nursing mom I pulled this year had to be separated from their babies within a week because she came down with the most serious form of the calici virus.... This is a crisis. Someone please explain to me why it is not.”

I’ll be glad to tell you why... as a personal witness not more than 3 days ago… It’s because the ACCT staff, volunteers and management don’t wash their F**KING HANDS in between handling animals!! It’s because the sick cats/kittens are NOT isolated from the healthy ones! Someone needs to notify the Department of Agriculture!! I will never foster for PSPCA again!!!

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186. 1animalfriend said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 07:50AM

““…Most kittens/cats I’ve pulled this year have become deathly ill, many have died. Our mortality rates today exceed that of anytime in Hunting Park’s history, going back to 2003….

“…2 foster homes that exclusively foster bottle babies. They have over 20 years experience. But their seemingly magical ability to save the most fragile of these little ones has evaporated in 2009. One of these foster homes has lost 18 of 18 bottle babies this year. Another has had only a few survivors out of a couple dozen. Virtually every nursing mom I pulled this year had to be separated from their babies within a week because she came down with the most serious form of the calici virus.... This is a crisis. Someone please explain to me why it is not.”

I’ll be glad to tell you why... as a personal witness not more than 3 days ago… It’s because the ACCT staff, volunteers and management don’t wash their F**KING HANDS in between handling animals!! It’s because the sick cats/kittens are NOT isolated from the healthy ones! Someone needs to notify the Department of Agriculture!! I will never foster for PSPCA again!!!

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187. 1animalfriend said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 08:00AM

“Sorry, I meant to say it IS a crisis, and I saw first hand why viruses and germs are spread in ACCT.

Negligence, Stupidity, Lack of Staff Training, Cross Contamination, AND Accountability. Management refuses to take responsibility, and continuously passes the buck to other management personnel. All personnel in management positions should be fired!!! The same people who ran PACCA now run ACCT. That is the problem!!!

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188. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 08:11AM

“1animalfriend please don't say you will never foster for the PSPCA again. Think of the poor innocent animals. I would love to put feelings aside and foster for them but they won't let me, why good question. I was good enough to foster and work for them but they are idiots. If you have the chance please help save these babies and adults. I wish I could. That Beth White won't even return emails, why is is quilt.

Close the PSPCA branches and start over, that what I think. Would like to know what others think as well.”

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189. 1animalfriend said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 08:47AM

“#188 Anonymous...

Thank you for your kind words. I would love to foster again... but just recently the last cat w/nursing kittens I brought home had Calicivirus. I spent hours bleaching my spare bedroom last night. I can't chance my own cats getting sick just because ACCT will not take the responsibility to train their employees on how to contain and prevent the spread of infection and viruses.
Yes, I know that not all virus containment is 100%, but washing hand, separating sick cats and proper handling of dirty material such as used litter, food dishes and cleaning utensiles would reduce the spread of URI in the shelter. This is NOT being done at ACCT!!! They need to fire ALL the ACCT staff members, and hire people who can take control and responsibility!!!”

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190. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 09:50AM

“"1animalfriend said... Someone needs to notify the Department of Agriculture!! "

Please---for the sake of the animals----DO IT!!!!
You have seen this first hand----you are talking about Calici Virus-----Please do something!!!!!!!!!!”

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191. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 10:01AM

“Here is the Phone Number for the Pa. Dept. of Agriculture:
Animal Health & Diagnostic Services:
717-772-2852

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192. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 10:10AM

“Hi All,

For those of you that want to contact the Dept of Ag about things going on at ACCT, the only service you can notify is the bureau of Dog Law, who can inspect the kennel for only dog issues. Unfortunately...as has always seemed to be the case, cats fall into this nexus of the universe where they are not really overseen by anyone. Really I guess it would be a Dept of Health or City matter to take up. The other avenue, if people were really that adament and sure about the issues going on at ACCT, would be to file a cruelty complaint...although to be honest I am not sure exactly how that would work...as I doubt an organization would investigate itself for cruelty. Plus...being a veterinarian...from a medical standpoint...what I am hearing from the blogs would probably not be enough to warrant cruelty. Of course..I am not on the inside so I don't know.”

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193. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 10:53AM

“Maybe we could get a televisin or newspaper reporter in there.............”

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194. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:00AM

“Curious if the last few commenters actually read the article. It's ABOUT the sick animals...it's the whole point of the article. Why did it take 193 comments for someone to restate the point of the article and then everyone is reacting? Insane.”

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195. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:10AM

“Because CALICIVIRUS has been mentioned---I DON"T SEE CALICIVIRUS MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE---DO YOU????????? It was mentioned by
1animalfriend. Do you know that it can overrun an entire shelter?”

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196. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:12AM

“The PSPCA has been known to "rescue" cats from shelters with serious outbreaks of calicivirus--charge the owners with cruelty----so what do you not understand?”

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197. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:20AM

“The illness may not have been mentioned by name, but the POINT of the article seems to be about the lack of vaccination and the possible outcomes of this lack.

Sorta like here:
"“The shelters that I know of will vaccinate the animals as they cross the doorstep,” says Margret Casal, D.V.M., professor of medical genetics at the School of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. “Even a vaccine given right then and there will protect more than one given a few hours later.” Dr. Casal says that when a diseased animal enters a shelter and is placed with unvaccinated or improperly vaccinated animals, there’s great risk of outbreak."

I think "outbreak" is a general term, and may even cover calicivirus”

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198. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:31AM

“So, now there is a serious outcome due to the lack of vaccinations--now what? Let the animals suffer? Bullcrap!”

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199. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:49AM

“Well---Harrise---what are you going to do to get this shelter under control?”

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200. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 12:05PM

“The PSPCA will probably wait to announce the new CEO---then dump this ugly mess into his or her lap!”

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201. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 12:07PM

“I agree with Whomever Anonymous #197 is. In the shelter world..the best way to ensure health of the population is in the vaccination protocol and in the manner in which animals are handled/cleaned...and the flow through the facility. The biggest fomite (object that can transmit disease) is the humane being working in the shelter. If they do not take proper precuations in handling of the animals and the cleaning of their facilities...even good vaccination sometimes can't help. I will say that no shelter out there is going to be 100% free of any infectious disease...I can't do it here at the Humane League and I don't think I ever would be able to. However, if you are having a large number of severe cases of infection in any animal population...the trick to making it better is going back to square one and the basics. Might that mean some animals unfortunately have to be euthanized in the process (the most severely ill and the ones that spread the most disease)?? Yes. However...by focusing on the basics any situation can be brought under control.”

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202. 1animalfriend said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 12:16PM

“My original post was quoting #109. bwatson.
She is the foster parent who also had ACCT cats sick with calici. My comments were underneath what I pulled from her post. I thought it very interesting that she had the same proplem that I encountered from ACCT, although I don't pull as many cats/kittens as she does (God love her). I can only handle one litter at a time. But obviously, something needs to be done!!! I believe something in writing would be more substantial. I am drafting a letter now, and hope to sent mulitiple copies to persons in charge. (city councilmen, Dept of Ag. etc)

Maybe we should ship a few cases of antibiotic soap and gallon jugs of water to ACCT? Could it be possible that they don't know what soap and water looks like???”

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203. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 12:26PM

“Thanks for putting something in writing 1animalfriend--remember it is for the animals. Besides soap and water---we need to get some bleach over to ACCT. We need to have a thorough house cleaning----in more ways than one-----wink....wink.....”

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204. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 12:38PM

“Glad to see that at least one person responded as far as keeping the cats that are already in the shelter seperated from the ones that come in. In the branch of the PSPCA where I am located the cats and kittens are taken in off the street and put right in with the cats/kittens that are already there. No wonder these poor babies get sick.

As for Bleach how expensive is it but it is NOT used. When I was volunteering there I used a lot of bleach and the employees made fun of me but anyone with any common sense knows that bleach kills ALL germs.
Actually I bought bleach myself.

Please please someone investigate these branches but do NOT let the employees know you are coming. When they know and know why then they are on their best behavior.”

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205. nomopspca said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 01:46PM

“It is quite obvioius that the PSPCA is corrupt. How dare they raid a rescue (Tiger Ranch) for having sick cats when their shelters are loaded with them. Everyone who knows Lin Marie is aware that she takes in sick, injured and special needs cats. The PSPCA took her animals and trashed her name. Animals are getting sick at their facilities and apparently they aren't taking proper care of them. They aren't vaccinating the animals when they arrive. This is neglect and yet they aren't being charged with any crime. Disgusting. This organization has millions of dollars and yet they don't spay or neuter their animals. They are part of the problem. There is no excuse for this. The animals they "rescue" are probably worse off in their hands.”

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206. 1animalfriend said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 02:16PM

“Dear Bryan Langlois,

I'm curious... can you take spot test for contamination? To test which areas in the shelter are "nests" for disease??? Whether it be someone's computer keyboard, clothing, shoes, or a volunteers cleaning cart? I would love to go to ACCT and sample!

I agree with you, there is no way to be 100% proof. But if the PSPCA was a major hospital for people it would be shut down by the CDC!!!

I could give the shelter a half dozen "ideas or suggestions" on how to clean up their act (no pun intended) all are reasonable in price and all are easy to do. AWARENESS, EDUCATION AND TRAINING are key elements that are ignored. I don't have much of medical background. I do have a lot of common sense. I do have an ISO 9001 (International Organization for Standardization) background from a previous employer and I understand the concept. You write a proceedure on how to perform a function and you follow it.

There is break in proceedures at the PSPCA. There is lack of training amoung the staff. It is plain ignorance that is hurting the shelter. The staff and volunteers need to be re-educated on how to keep the spread of viruses and germs under control. If that can be accomplished, it will greatly improve conditions. PROACTIVE, rather than REACTIVE!

I hope the new CEO will recognize this problem and take steps to correct it.”

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207. 1animalfriend said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 02:16PM

“Dear Bryan Langlois,

I'm curious... can you take spot test for contamination? To test which areas in the shelter are "nests" for disease??? Whether it be someone's computer keyboard, clothing, shoes, or a volunteers cleaning cart? I would love to go to ACCT and sample!

I agree with you, there is no way to be 100% proof. But if the PSPCA was a major hospital for people it would be shut down by the CDC!!!

I could give the shelter a half dozen "ideas or suggestions" on how to clean up their act (no pun intended) all are reasonable in price and all are easy to do. AWARENESS, EDUCATION AND TRAINING are key elements that are ignored. I don't have much of medical background. I do have a lot of common sense. I do have an ISO 9001 (International Organization for Standardization) background from a previous employer and I understand the concept. You write a proceedure on how to perform a function and you follow it.

There is break in proceedures at the PSPCA. There is lack of training amoung the staff. It is plain ignorance that is hurting the shelter. The staff and volunteers need to be re-educated on how to keep the spread of viruses and germs under control. If that can be accomplished, it will greatly improve conditions. PROACTIVE, rather than REACTIVE!

I hope the new CEO will recognize this problem and take steps to correct it.”

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208. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:08PM

“Bryan - don't you have anything else to do with your time? You certainly have spent hours on this site. Why don't you go spay something?”

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209. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:13PM

“So many posts to reply to; so little space.
#19 - John, I guess all those neuters you did at PACCA were not surgery. According to the vets I've consulted, surgery is any procedure requiring a scalpel. Do some research. You'll get better results.”

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210. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:20PM

“#53, #83 - Some PACCA apologists allege that the information on Pack-A-Lies website was false. Sorry to disappoint you, but they are true. These are only some of the abuses that would have been reported if a PACCA watch-dog site had been in existence during Tara Darby's tenure at PACCA. In fact, some of them are experiences I personally had and I witnessed, and I guarantee you, they are true.”

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211. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:22PM

“#208 - Your comment is perfect. I'm still laughing.

#19 - John can deny all he wants, but I was told on many occasions from numerous PACCA staff members and volunteers that he performed spay/neuters. He was easily recognizable in his scrubs and was often heard bragging how he "trained" the vet students. I'm sure Penn would love to hear about that. By the way, according to the State Licensure Board only vets can perform surgical procedures.

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212. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:25PM

“#98 - Apparently some readers were horrified that owner requested euthanasias were being carried out by PSPCA. And how is this different than what PACCA did? A few summers ago, I personally transferred three cats out of PACCA that were owner requested euthanasias--and those 3 cats would have never made it out of intake but for the fact that I was at the shelter as a volunteer at the time they came in on the truck.”

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213. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:31PM

“#133, #136 - regarding Penn Vet's "world-class" shelter medicine program. Huh? Lesson #1 apparently is: if you are running a large shelter that takes in approx 30,000 animals a year, the first thing you do is make sure you have NO full-time dedicated shelter veterinarian to oversee operations. Rely on students and volunteers. I don't blame the students; rather I blame the faculty for depriving the vet students of the necessary supervision and oversight. I believe one of the reasons Tara Darby cultivated this relationship was that having a "relationship" with Penn Vet would automatically shield whatever went on at the shelter from strict scrutiny. After all, in Philly, who is going to speak up against anything related to Penn?”

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214. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:41PM

“#150 - So-called "long-time activist and rescuer" M. Boritz was reportedly banned from PSPCA and/or ACCT. How sad. When some genuine long-time activists and rescuers spoke up about atrocities that they witnessed during the $1 kitten sales engineered by Darby and Cosby of PACCA, they were summarily banned for speaking the ugly truth and excoriated on Winograd's blog. Of course, that was back when Winograd was a member of Darby's fan club. M. Boritz herself, ostensibly a volunteer and NOT a PACCA employee, rudely banned other volunteers from a spay/neuter clinic that these same banned volunteers founded years earlier. Now she has been banned. The worm turns.”

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215. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:48PM

“Re: kitten mortality. As rescuers who almost exclusively pull litters of kittens off the streets, out of backyards, and out of feral cat colonies, we have seen a dramatic increase in kitten mortality in the 16 months. Before last summer, we rarely lost even a bottle feeder. Beginning last summer, there was hardly a litter rescued from which we did not lose at least 1-2 kittens. Vets consulted could offer no more exact diagnosis than "fading kitten syndrome." I assume that any kitten who would fail to thrive outside a crowded shelter environment would naturally be even more vulnerable to ordinary URIs and other illnesses that a more robust animal could survive. Disease control and proper sanitation procedures are crucial, but there may be other forces at work in the environment.”

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216. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:57PM

“Yes #211, I can confirm that what you were told is true. I didn't need to be told by PACCA volunteers and employees that John did neuters. I actually witnessed it. Numerous times. So did lots of other people. This is not even PLAUSIBLE denial.”

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217. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:57PM

“Yes #211, I can confirm that what you were told is true. I didn't need to be told by PACCA volunteers and employees that John did neuters. I actually witnessed it. Numerous times. So did lots of other people. This is not even PLAUSIBLE denial.”

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218. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 01:21AM

“If John performed surgery without a license in veterinary medicine, then he should be charged with animal cruelty.”

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219. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 01:21AM

“If John performed surgery without a license in veterinary medicine, then he should be charged with animal cruelty.”

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220. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 01:21AM

“If John performed surgery without a license in veterinary medicine, then he should be charged with animal cruelty.”

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221. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 01:21AM

“If John performed surgery without a license in veterinary medicine, then he should be charged with animal cruelty.”

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222. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 07:13AM

“Lots of folks here are suffering from memory loss. When it was PACCA, the mortality rate for kittens was extremely high and illness was rampant. Of course, conditions were complicated by the fact that there was little or no medication at PACCA and no vet staff. But, hey, they had the expert team, John and Margaret. By the way, performing surgery without a license in veterinary medicine is illegal.

While the present situation is far from perfect, it's a huge improvement over this time last year. Adopt, foster, volunteer -- this will help effect change.

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223. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 07:17AM

“#217 - You can report this to the State Licensure Board for Veterinary Medicine. Studying and obtaining a degree in veterinary medicine requires many years of study, dedication and financial sacrifice. It should not be compromised and diminished by some wannabe.”

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224. 1animalfriend said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 07:46AM

“"222. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 07:13AM

While the present situation is far from perfect, it's a huge improvement over this time last year. Adopt, foster, volunteer -- this will help effect change."
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I'm sorry #222 Anonymous, I can't agree. The same people who ran PACCA are still working for ACCT. How does thing make things better. Employees who didn't wash their hands while working at PACCA are still not washing their hands while working for ACCT.

Fostering out sick animals to unsuspecting foster parents and rescue groups does nothing but improve PSPCA adoptable percentages. The animals are getting sick while INSIDE the shelter and then dying while in foster care.

The PSPCA needs to clean house with detergents and with pink slips!!!!! Only then will we see some good changes for the animals inside.

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225. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 08:02AM

“To the poster who asked about culturing the facility, yes that can be done...but would most likely be fruitless at least at this point in time, mainly because of what you would be trying to isolate. That would work better for bacterial or fungal issues, but not for viral, which are harder to culture and may not yield anything.

To the anonymous poster who suggested I do some spays, for those wondering....35 feral spay neuter surgeries were done on Tuesday, followed by 4 more dog spays and 2 dog neuters. That was followed by 3 sets of radiographs taken on animals that had injuries or chronic conditions. Wednseday for me was spent doing 8 cat spays and 10 cat neuters, completing cruelty examinations and reports, follwoed by 4 dog spays and 3 dog neuters, and further radiographic exams of a cat with a wrist injury. I check this site occasionaly to answer any questions that may arise, and comment on what I feel to be right. Since everyone else posts here anonymously, I have no idea who this should really be addressed to, but feel free to ask me anything else about my work.”

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226. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 08:28AM

“#225 - Good point. THE PSPCA needs to get rid of ALL former PACCA staff/volunteers who are working and/or volunteering at ACCT. They undermine any potential good by leaking misinformation and maintaining loyalty, however, misplaced, to the former PACCA.”

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227. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 10:30AM

“As a former PACCA/PAWS volunteer, I sometimes volunteered at the Adoption Center at 2nd Street. During late summer of 2008 I wanted to put something in the freezer compartment of the employee refrigerator when I noticed 2 "packages" wrapped in a garbage bag. Upon further inspection, I discovered these were dead cats. When I asked why dead cats were being kept in the freezer, I was told those were the instructions from PACCA -- there was no one available to pick them up. This happened on several occasions.

You should also know that the cat isolation room ("ISO") at the Adoption Center is comprised of cages in a dark basement with poor ventilation and no air conditioning. The basement also houses the washer (which sometimes leaks) and dryer, in addition to storage. There is also leaking from the outside when it rains.

There was no qualified on-site vet care for isolation cats (or any animals at the Adoption Center). So-called medical treatment (including IV) was administered by a manager.

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228. my poor PAWS pup said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 11:42AM

“In regards to:

216. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:57PM
“Yes #211, I can confirm that what you were told is true. I didn't need to be told by PACCA volunteers and employees that John did neuters. I actually witnessed it. Numerous times. So did lots of other people. This is not even PLAUSIBLE denial.”

And

218. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 01:21AM
“If John performed surgery without a license in veterinary medicine, then he should be charged with animal cruelty.”

I was told by the adoption staff at PAWS (and this information was later confirmed by a PACCA/PAWS volunteer I met at a dog park) when I adopted my dog that Penn Vet STUDENTS performed my dog's neuter surgery. Students. Without licenses. They used living creatures as training tools. What happened to the animals used for training if the students failed? Hmm? Good riddance.”

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229. my poor PAWS pup said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 11:42AM

“In regards to:

216. Anonymous said... on Apr 29, 2009 at 06:57PM
“Yes #211, I can confirm that what you were told is true. I didn't need to be told by PACCA volunteers and employees that John did neuters. I actually witnessed it. Numerous times. So did lots of other people. This is not even PLAUSIBLE denial.”

And

218. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 01:21AM
“If John performed surgery without a license in veterinary medicine, then he should be charged with animal cruelty.”

I was told by the adoption staff at PAWS (and this information was later confirmed by a PACCA/PAWS volunteer I met at a dog park) when I adopted my dog that Penn Vet STUDENTS performed my dog's neuter surgery. Students. Without licenses. They used living creatures as training tools. What happened to the animals used for training if the students failed? Hmm? Good riddance.”

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230. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 11:46AM

“Who administered the rabies vaccinations?
Students?”

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231. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 12:04PM

“To all ANONYMOUS posts in the 200s comments:

You are making some pretty strong accusations. And you are making them anonymously. Why aren't you validating yourself by stating your name?

That pretty much invalidates anything you are saying. Anyone can make a claim but to do so anonymously is not only cowardly, but also makes that claim a bogus one. What do you have to lose by saying who you are if what you say is true? A lawsuit for slander and libel is what you are facing if you are lying. Ah, so that's why you choose to be ANONYMOUS.

Remember, Gentle Readers: Just because you read it on the Internet and somebody makes some anonymous post in a comment section or on a blog, doesn't make it true. In fact it almost never is.

You people need to get something else to do.



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232. Bryan Langlois said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 12:19PM

“To those wondering about the validity of letting vet students do the spay and neuter surgeries, that is perfectly legal and allowed provided there is a veterinarian overseeing things in the operating room. This is what the Penn Vet Shelter Program did at PACCA/PAWS. It is how vet students are trained in basic surgery all over the country. The same thing happens in Surgery teaching suites in Veterinary Schools. Actually, the teaching of basic spay/neuter surgery to students on shelter dogs and cats helps in two ways. It makes sure that more animals leave shelters already altered, and also reduces the number of terminal surgeries that must be done on animals in vet schools. I run a very successful surgery program for students at the Humane League, where I am assisting and watching over them as they learn spay and neuter procedures. Not only does it give a student tons of surgical confidence, it makes them that much better when they graduate and start working at a clinic. If something happens or there is a complication, then the veterinarian that is there moves in to assist and correct it. All procedures are watched over by a vet at all times and the students are guided by veterinary instruction.”

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233. JBG said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 12:29PM

“The U of Penn Vet School is a teaching facility. How do you think students learn? They do surgeries under the supervision of their instructors. They don't start out doing surgery on live animals. They learn on cadavers just like in human medical schools. While at PACCA the students were very well supervised and did an excellent job. Spay incisions were very tiny. It was awesome! Instead of bitching about things, think about how many unwanted litters were prevented by all the spay/neuter surgeries that were done by Penn students. Haven't we all learned that people can not be trusted to have their pets neutered after adoption? When you are having surgery in a teaching hospital who do you think is doing your surgery? The med students, interns and residents are learning on you under direction of their instructors. Don't you watch ER, Gray's Anatomy, etc? This is allowed by law.
Several other issues I would like to address: It is common practice at all vet clinics/hospitals to put deceased cats/dogs on ice till they can be properly disposed of. As a rescue volunteer I also put deceased kitties into a designated freezer in my garage until I can bury them on my son's property in the country. I refuse to throw them out in the garbage. They deserve some respect.
I have also taken the time to learn from a veterinarian how to do IV fluids and give injections to very sick kitties. When kittens become sick minutes count as they can crash quickly. Being able to start an IV before I dash off to the vet has saved many little lives.
Serious dedicated rescuers have learned many things along the way from veterinarians.”

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234. JBG said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 12:29PM

“The U of Penn Vet School is a teaching facility. How do you think students learn? They do surgeries under the supervision of their instructors. They don't start out doing surgery on live animals. They learn on cadavers just like in human medical schools. While at PACCA the students were very well supervised and did an excellent job. Spay incisions were very tiny. It was awesome! Instead of bitching about things, think about how many unwanted litters were prevented by all the spay/neuter surgeries that were done by Penn students. Haven't we all learned that people can not be trusted to have their pets neutered after adoption? When you are having surgery in a teaching hospital who do you think is doing your surgery? The med students, interns and residents are learning on you under direction of their instructors. Don't you watch ER, Gray's Anatomy, etc? This is allowed by law.
Several other issues I would like to address: It is common practice at all vet clinics/hospitals to put deceased cats/dogs on ice till they can be properly disposed of. As a rescue volunteer I also put deceased kitties into a designated freezer in my garage until I can bury them on my son's property in the country. I refuse to throw them out in the garbage. They deserve some respect.
I have also taken the time to learn from a veterinarian how to do IV fluids and give injections to very sick kitties. When kittens become sick minutes count as they can crash quickly. Being able to start an IV before I dash off to the vet has saved many little lives.
Serious dedicated rescuers have learned many things along the way from veterinarians.”

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235. JBG said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 12:34PM

“Brian Langlois:
I wish you were closer to Philly! You sound like a caring and dedicated vet and I appreciate all your informative postings.”

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236. JBG said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 12:34PM

“Brian Langlois:
I wish you were closer to Philly! You sound like a caring and dedicated vet and I appreciate all your informative postings.”

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237. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 01:57PM

“Well for everyone that was against PACCA and thought Howard and the PSPCA could do a better job, well the only thing that they did was painted walls, did some construction, new grass, and a pretty building. I heard the euthanasia room is pretty. So now animals enter into a pretty room to be put down. But the city got a building that looks nice. Come on people, think for once, focus all of your energy on getting these animals out of the shelter. Put the word out there, that there are hundreds and hundreds of animals that are looking for a home.”

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238. Legal Eagle said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 02:01PM

“Anonymous" wrote..........
“To all ANONYMOUS posts in the 200s comments:

You are making some pretty strong accusations. And you are making them anonymously. Why aren't you validating yourself by stating your name?

That pretty much invalidates anything you are saying. Anyone can make a claim but to do so anonymously is not only cowardly, but also makes that claim a bogus one. What do you have to lose by saying who you are if what you say is true? A lawsuit for slander and libel is what you are facing if you are lying. Ah, so that's why you choose to be ANONYMOUS.

Remember, Gentle Readers: Just because you read it on the Internet and somebody makes some anonymous post in a comment section or on a blog, doesn't make it true. In fact it almost never is.

wooooooooo-----comments are really getting you shook up?????
Why don't you state YOUR name?

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239. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 02:42PM

“Anonymity = falsehood? I guess that's why you call yourself Legal Eagle.

As for vet students doing surgeries--there is nothing wrong with student vets learning by doing under supervision of experienced licensed vets. At PACCA what I've seen at times is lack of oversight, for which I blame the teachers, not the vet students.
The lack of one full-time dedicated on-site staff veterinarian responsible for overseeing all medical operations at a big, busy shelter during Darby's tenure at PACCA was inexcusable. Based on the PAWS volunteers observation, PAWS is now using its adoption center as an animal hospital/shelter as well, which seems like another in a series of really bad ideas.”

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240. margie said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 02:59PM

“I generaly do not read or responsed to these blogs. But a friend of mine told me that people were really saying some awful things about Margaret and John. Well i read them and thought I should write what I know about these two people. Well I met Margaret and John at Pacca, where they volunteered every free time they had. They would come in and clean cages, feed animals, anything they could do to help out. Our surgery schedule was everyday and on weekends also. We had at that time 4 techs. working 10-14 hrs a day. Margaret and john would help out in surgery. They would set up surgery for the doctors, clean instruments, put data into computer, they would do anything to help out. I have been around both of them in surgery everytime they were there, you see I was the clinic manager at Pacca. Im telling you this because the false statements that John performed surgeries are just that false. He NEVER performed any surgies on any animal. It is such a shame that two people that have dedicated all of thier free time to help these unwanted sick animals have to deal with people that for some reason or another want to slander them. These people have done nothing but help the animals that you people blog about. Its a shame that you spend most of your time slandering good people, when you can be using your free time in helping the animals like they do. Well I left my name, so im sure the next blog will be about how a terrible person I am too. But I don't care, Im not here for you, Im here for the animals, so blog away.”

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241. margie said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 02:59PM

“I generaly do not read or responsed to these blogs. But a friend of mine told me that people were really saying some awful things about Margaret and John. Well i read them and thought I should write what I know about these two people. Well I met Margaret and John at Pacca, where they volunteered every free time they had. They would come in and clean cages, feed animals, anything they could do to help out. Our surgery schedule was everyday and on weekends also. We had at that time 4 techs. working 10-14 hrs a day. Margaret and john would help out in surgery. They would set up surgery for the doctors, clean instruments, put data into computer, they would do anything to help out. I have been around both of them in surgery everytime they were there, you see I was the clinic manager at Pacca. Im telling you this because the false statements that John performed surgeries are just that false. He NEVER performed any surgies on any animal. It is such a shame that two people that have dedicated all of thier free time to help these unwanted sick animals have to deal with people that for some reason or another want to slander them. These people have done nothing but help the animals that you people blog about. Its a shame that you spend most of your time slandering good people, when you can be using your free time in helping the animals like they do. Well I left my name, so im sure the next blog will be about how a terrible person I am too. But I don't care, Im not here for you, Im here for the animals, so blog away.”

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242. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 03:01PM

“PA Code, Section 31.31 re Veterinary Technicians and Non-Certified Employees:
(c) Prohibited acts. Neither certified veterinary technicians nor noncertified employees may do the following:
(1) Perform surgery.
(2) Diagnose.
(3) Prognose.
(4) Prescribe, including treatments, medications or appliances.
(5) Attest to health status.

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243. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 03:10PM

“One full time dedicated on-site staff veterinarian= 40 hour work week.
What do you do for the other 128 hours?

PACCA had vets at the shelter six and occasionally seven days a week. By using parttime vets, it was possible to cover more days and more hours.

The shelter medicine program, its instructors and students were at the shelter 3 days a week.

I'm not saying it was optimal, but it was what could be done with a pathetic budget.

One of the problems I see with the PSPCA's proposal is that they said they would have more staff with less money. Better medicine with less money.
Better save rates with less money.

Now, with the city workers' union about to reassert itself into animal control , how on earth is that going to work out?

Less = more?

The fact is that the PSPCA is going to be forced to continue to spend down their endowment to cover the cost of maintaining the animal control contract and providing the services they promised. How long is that going to last?


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244. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 03:17PM

“PACCA did not have "vets at the shelter six and occasionally seven days a week." If so, then they didn't care about the animals. Kennel cough, gastro issues, etc., were rampant.

A solution to this problem will not be easy, but PACCA never even expressed interest. Wake up, folks, the PSPCA is still cleaning up the mess and, contrary to the pro-PACCA nonsense, cares.


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245. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 04:38PM

“ok anonymous 244, there were surgeries 6 days a week, and the shelter medicine 3 days a week. Kennel cough, yeah kennel cough is in every shelter, even ACCT. gastro issues, in every shelter, take an animal out of one situtation and put it into a shelter with 600 other cats, and don't forget about the barking dogs, and sure enough stress is gonna set in and diarrhea will be the outcome. Please stop posting stupid comments. Every shelter experiences outbreaks, thats what happens when you have that many animals in one place. I guess ACCT doesnt have Kennel cough or gastro issues right. Please get your facts straight, because apparently you have no idea about shelters.”

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246. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 05:38PM

“I usually volunteered at PACCA on weekends and 1-2 nights during the week and never saw a vet or vet tech.

244 makes a valid point. 245 obviously mixed up the facts to suit a personal agenda.

This article and the accompanying posts are not about the animals, but about the division in loyalties.”

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247. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 05:38PM

“I usually volunteered at PACCA on weekends and 1-2 nights during the week and never saw a vet or vet tech.

244 makes a valid point. 245 obviously mixed up the facts to suit a personal agenda.

This article and the accompanying posts are not about the animals, but about the division in loyalties.”

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248. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 05:41PM

“hey anonymous 242, who gives vaccines to the animals over at ACCT. oh thats right someone who is not a vet. and who adminsters meds to the sick animals, oh thats right again not a vet. So you go on and look up all the codes you want, but bottom line is ACCT is doing the same things that you are complaining about. You really need to get your facts straight before you blog.”

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249. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 05:41PM

“hey anonymous 242, who gives vaccines to the animals over at ACCT. oh thats right someone who is not a vet. and who adminsters meds to the sick animals, oh thats right again not a vet. So you go on and look up all the codes you want, but bottom line is ACCT is doing the same things that you are complaining about. You really need to get your facts straight before you blog.”

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250. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 05:54PM

“to anonymous 226, maintaining loyalty, what you really mean is don't let anyone know what really goes on at ACCT. You're afraid that someone might leak the truth, and when I say leak, I mean have proof of what is really gone on over there. Come on you can say it, just say Acct has to get rid of anyone and everyone who might be willing to speak with reporters about what really happens over there. Wow, as far as I know, there are only a handful of people from Pacca that work over there. I guess the leaks could be from other employees. Got ya scared now. You never know who will talk next. Guess we will just have to see.”

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251. Anonymous said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 06:25PM

“ok 246 if you were at pacca 1-2 nights a week, then you would of known that there was always a tech on the 3:30 to 12am shift. everynight. and again, every shelter has outbreaks, its controlling the outbreaks that is the hard part. I don't have any personal agendas, i think some of the comments about pacca are funny. People post negative things about pacca, and yet the spca is doing the same things.”

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252. ANONYMOUS(eb) said... on Apr 30, 2009 at 10:17PM

“I say Hang That DYNAMIC DUO. What Right do they have to spend ALL their FREE time helping these pathetic ANIMALS that NOBODY else cares about. Let's take them to walk the PLANKS of Pier 70 abandoned by PCCC. Lets take them to Riverview also abandoned by PCCC and have them committed. What they DO to the ANIMALS of FILTHADELPHIA is UNBELIEVABLE. OFF WITH THEIR Large Hands. M could you call me back. eb Hi Margie!
Sorry folks, but I had to have a little FUN since ALL these ANONYMOUSE'S
comments are getting to be a JOKE and OSTENSIBLY unfounded.

Bryan Langlois, Hope to meet you someday.

"they Bantered on,... as the Cats kept crying" -eb (2009)”

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253. Anonymous said... on May 1, 2009 at 12:49PM

“The Pier 70 project was not deserted. Tara Darby/PACCA et al. allegedly took over Pier 70 about two years ago. I recently saw M re-iterate that it is their project, even though PACCA is dead. Maybe she could explain to the people who feed down there why there is no food for the cats or other activities.

Just because YOU didn't see John doing neuters DOES NOT mean that John did not perform neuters. If true, it only confirms that you never saw him do them.

Did you ever wonder how two people who had to make a living at their own business and pay rent for their commercial space managed to have so much free time to spend "volunteering" at PACCA. Volunteering implies free labor. A sources inside the PACCA board (a former board member) could contradict that. Darby's policy could be summed up by "everything is on the table; anything goes." Shortly afterwards almost every remaining PACCA board member resigned because of objectionable arrangements made. Believe what you want. Hang around long and enough and you may be able to see past your loyalties into the darker side.”

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254. Anonymous said... on May 1, 2009 at 12:49PM

“The Pier 70 project was not deserted. Tara Darby/PACCA et al. allegedly took over Pier 70 about two years ago. I recently saw M re-iterate that it is their project, even though PACCA is dead. Maybe she could explain to the people who feed down there why there is no food for the cats or other activities.

Just because YOU didn't see John doing neuters DOES NOT mean that John did not perform neuters. If true, it only confirms that you never saw him do them.

Did you ever wonder how two people who had to make a living at their own business and pay rent for their commercial space managed to have so much free time to spend "volunteering" at PACCA. Volunteering implies free labor. A sources inside the PACCA board (a former board member) could contradict that. Darby's policy could be summed up by "everything is on the table; anything goes." Shortly afterwards almost every remaining PACCA board member resigned because of objectionable arrangements made. Believe what you want. Hang around long and enough and you may be able to see past your loyalties into the darker side.”

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255. Anonymous said... on May 1, 2009 at 01:00PM

“Re: PACCA vet. Yes, a full-time dedicated shelter vet would spend perhaps 40 hours per week at the shelter--maybe more if needed. So s/he would not be present at all times. However, it is only logical that one permanent dedicated vet should oversee the medical functions at a shelter. Once Dr. Bindra left PACCA (during the tenure of George Stem), there was no veterinarian director of animal health. The role was filled by a series of vet techs. This is not to denigrate their skills, but it is unfair to place that kind of burden on a vet tech. That is a job for a veterinarian--overseeing the vet techs, vet students, volunteer vets, and part-time vets. The director of animal health should be the one to set procedures and protocols and insure that they are followed. I think the lack of one qualified vet responsible for oversight of medical operations and procedures was responsible for many of the medical problems at PACCA.”

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256. Anonymous said... on May 1, 2009 at 01:01PM

“Well said, #254. I guess there are different definitions of "free," depending on who you are and whose money you're spending. I heard from several individuals that John and Margaret were compensated by Derby.

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257. Anonymous said... on May 1, 2009 at 01:24PM

“It is not only the job of a veterinarian (see #255 above), it is the law. That Tara Derby and Dana Spain Smith, et al were never prosecuted for animal cruelty (and more) is astounding. Equally astounding is the cult-like loyalty of their supporters and former PACCA/PAWS volunteers who have the nerve to denigrate the PSPCA.”

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258. Garrett said... on May 1, 2009 at 05:06PM

“It's telling that so many of these comments are getting so out of control. To the critics of PACCA: Move on. PACCA no longer exists. None of the leadership there is involved in animal control. The point is that the PSPCA and the Health Department promised a higher level of care. Their proposal to the people of this city underbid PACCA's proposal by $100,000 and now I hear rumors of another $100,000 cut in animal control funding. Shauna Binswanger, the PSPCA Treasurer, admitted in a Lifesaving Mission with several people there who can verify this (including Stu Bykofsky from the Philadelphia Daily News, that they are, "bleeding money". Howard Nelson admitted in an interview, that they "would surely spend well over the $3 Million Dollars that the contract is worth". If they knew this, why would they underbid it? What is the overall mission here? There are too many questions and not enough answers. How does the PSPCA hope to continue asking the public for donations when they are killing so many animals a year. Even if they did everything right, they are still animal control! Why any sane leader would actively seek out the animal control contract is beyond me.

Here is exactly what will happen and you all can write this down. If the PSPCA stays in animal control, their funding base will shrink as people learn how many animals are killed monthly in Philadelphia. The few major donors they have will be asked to carry and larger and larger burden and some will begin to back out and put their support elsewhere less controversial. The city will continue to cut the Animal Control Budget and some time soon, they will be forced to spend down their endowment. Once that happens their trustees will revolt and they WILL DROP THE CONTRACT. Philadelphia will be back where we were a decade ago.

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259. Anonymous said... on May 1, 2009 at 08:12PM

“To everyone that has posted negative things about Pacca and the Spca, go back to the first sentence of this article, it states that there are 31,000 unwanted animals dropped off at the shelter each year, who need a place to call home. That is the important fact, and the only true fact of this whole damn thing. Why don't everyone fucos on the animals, and keep all your negative comments to yourself, because this is not helping the situation. Pacca is long gone, and everyone has moved on. The Spca wanted the contract, they said they could do better, so lets wait and see. But for now, why don't everyone spread the word about these animals. Better yet go do something for them and make a difference.”

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260. Anonymous said... on May 1, 2009 at 08:12PM

“To everyone that has posted negative things about Pacca and the Spca, go back to the first sentence of this article, it states that there are 31,000 unwanted animals dropped off at the shelter each year, who need a place to call home. That is the important fact, and the only true fact of this whole damn thing. Why don't everyone fucos on the animals, and keep all your negative comments to yourself, because this is not helping the situation. Pacca is long gone, and everyone has moved on. The Spca wanted the contract, they said they could do better, so lets wait and see. But for now, why don't everyone spread the word about these animals. Better yet go do something for them and make a difference.”

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261. Anonymous said... on May 2, 2009 at 12:08AM

“Here is exactly what will happen and you all can write this down. If the PSPCA stays in animal control, their funding base will shrink as people learn how many animals are killed monthly in Philadelphia. The few major donors they have will be asked to carry and larger and larger burden and some will begin to back out and put their support elsewhere less controversial. The city will continue to cut the Animal Control Budget and some time soon, they will be forced to spend down their endowment. Once that happens their trustees will revolt and they WILL DROP THE CONTRACT.

Garrett - you have some serious problems. Maybe, just maybe the PSPCA sought the contract because they were tired of pulling hundreds of sick animals from PACCA - that in turn made their dogs and cats sick and hard to place. You should buy a crystal ball and set up a cardtable on South Street. You can see into the future! And what can we expect from you in the future? Bashing more volunteers desperately trying to help the animals of Phila? Please keep in mind that the Board of the PSPCA consists of volunteers. Men and women trying to make things better for these animals. What have you ever contributed, Garrett? I see your future, alright. I see a small man, with a smaller mind, standing on an orange crate shouting about all kinds of imagined injustices. Trying to get someone to pay attention to you.

You should write fiction - oh, wait. You do.”

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262. 1animalfriend said... on May 2, 2009 at 03:09PM

“PSPCA. PACCA. ACCT. What difference does it make. The animals inside the shelter are still getting sick from the unsanitary conditions. You can't adopt a sick animal. Foster parents and rescues who try to help, end up with animals so sick they are beyond help. Not to mention you risk the health of your own animals by fostering for ACCT. Calicivirus is running amuck. Ringworm, and God only knows what else. Managment of Life Saving... what a joke. They only thing their good at saving is their own ass!! They are lying to foster parents and to the general public!!!

Employees don't wash their hands,or sanitize the bottoms of their shoes. Or protect their clothing. Germs and viruses are tracked from cage to cage and room to room. Isolation.... there is NO isolation. Sick cats and kittens are in cages next to the healthy one. Can someone tell me why that is??? Why do we have kittens with ringworn in a cage next to healthy kittens? Do you have any idea how hard it is to get rid of ringworm fungus in your house??? Calici virus is just as bad. I have a room in my house I can't use for the next 3 weeks because of calici.

What good does it do to have vets and vet techs when they can't even keep the place clean and wash their hands in between touching the animals?

You're bickering about contracts and budgets, when the fools working there don't have the sense to even try to stop the spread of disease. The animals are dying inside a place that is suppose to help them. I've said it before and I'll say it again, all the staff should be fired. We need new blood to run things in Philadelphia. New procedures, new training, and some freaking soap and water to clean the place.

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263. Garrett said... on May 9, 2009 at 06:09AM

“wow, Anonymous 261:

You are REALLY angry. It's just so telling how you (and others) go right for the personal jugular like a schoolyard bully tearing someone down. I have not insulted anyone personally, but instead offered competent, rational arguments that need to be addressed by those responsible. Yet in 262 posted comments, not one person has offered a rational rebuttal to my concerns. Instead you insult people.

What have I contributed? I've fostered 30 foster dogs, is that enough? I've donated hundreds if not thousands of hours, materials and labor, transported countless animals, hosted and attended dozens of events, and developed programs to help the animals at the shelter and in the community. I have contributed more than most. Certainly enough to weigh in on the injustices perpetrated as of late by the PSPCA. What I am contributing now is demanding better care for the animals of Philadelphia. More accountability from city contractors, the Health Department and the Mayor. That is my right regardless of my contributions. It's my right and responsibility as a citizen.

It doesn't take a crystal ball to see the writing on the wall or to understand the impossible transfer numbers the PSPCA is fraudulently publishing. As far as being a small man, I'm not sure, I'm 5'10" (on a good day) and could stand to loose another 10 pounds, but I'll take that as a compliment... My mind however, isn't small and I'd be glad to let you put that to the test any day of the week and twice on Sundays.



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264. nora-neko-ha said... on May 9, 2009 at 08:14PM

“I took a litter of kittens (4) from PAWS and watched all but one of the kittens die while I frantically did everything I could to save them. I really did not get any guidance and I'm new to all this, but there are so many things that would/could have helped me and I will foster again but this has been quite a shitty experience. I did not realize how heart-wrenching it would be to foster. I grew up in a typical white-trash southern rural area and from that I learned how much animals suffer because of overbreeding and ignorant people refusgin to spay and neuter their pets. (I learned a lot from watching that) Still, I have never in my life seen kittens sicker than the ones that came from Hunting Park. Shocking. I would take a bullet for a kitten. Anyone want to adopt the (beautiful, healthy) one I'm caring for now?”

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265. E.P. said... on May 10, 2009 at 05:56PM

“Thank you so, so much for this article. Some of the comments on here criticize the efforts of journalists to expose the problems at the PSPCA, telling Murtha to volunteer instead. I foster and volunteer, but I think the job you are doing is even greater because the only way to make things better for the animals of Philadelphia is to make the public aware of the problem.
I do not volunteer at the PSPCA (I volunteer at a different shelter outside the city) but I had a foster kitten with them. He was a PACCA/PAWS kitten but he had not yet been neutered when the ACCT/PSPCA was awarded the animal control contract, so he was transferred to them. In January and February, I brought him in three separate times to be neutered. One time, they were "backed up" and could not take him (although I had made an appointment). The other two times they were experiencing disease outbreaks (the first time was a deadly URI, and the second time they did not or could not tell me what it was), for which they had no cure. Luckily, the people at the desk told me about the problems and gave me the option to reschedule. Needless to say, after three attempts I chose to neuter him at my own vet, at my own expense, and I'm glad I did.

To the posters out there who asked how they can get involved in fostering of volunteering: I recommend you go to PAWS/PACCA. I am not affiliated with them in any way, and I don't think that they are the perfect. But I do think that if you foster or adopt an animal from them you stand a much better chance of not having to watch that animal die.”

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266. Legal Eagle said... on May 10, 2009 at 08:20PM

“I was just wondering---has the PSPCA stepped up to the plate to get the sickness at these shelters under control?
Why is it taking so long to hire a new CEO at the PSPCA?”

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267. Anonymous said... on May 11, 2009 at 05:25AM

“I wonder who the PACCA Chief Operating Officer was when you took those kittens, nora-neko-ha? I hope that person never runs a large scale operation again.

It's terrible that you had that experience. We need to do better than that.”

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268. nora-neko-ha said... on May 27, 2009 at 05:25AM

“I think that it was Sue Cosby who was in charge of PACCA when that happened, I was dismayed to read in the newspaper that the PSPCA was hiring her! What a ridiculous decision. They were relentless in their criticism of PACCA for all their mistakes under Cosby, now, they hire her! She'll bring back all the incompetent staff and recreate the PACCA of the past. NO ONE WANTS THAT!

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