Dan Rottenberg—Editor of Broad Street Review—Spews Vile Rape Commentary

By Tara Murtha
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“The difference in their stories seemed obvious to me. Ann kept a low profile, dressed conservatively, installed a burglar alarm, locked her sturdy front door at all times and kept a gun her front hallway. Sarah, on the other hand, dressed like a flower child (she wasn’t a druggie, but she looked like one), had no burglar alarm and only the flimsiest of front doors; and in any case she often kept her front door ajar, where she could be seen puttering around her living room in shorts and a halter.”

It’s unclear if Rottenberg attributes the attempted rape and daughter’s molestation to the way Sarah dressed and the burglaries to her door-locking habits, or what. Did the burglars bust in while the door was ajar? Did an intruder molest her daughter, or as is statistically far more likely, a family member or friend? Is Rottenberg seriously writing about the molestation of a young girl he seemingly barely knows and affixing blame on her mother?

In the end, it’s not just the offensive statements that make this piece so bizarre. To return to Logan for a minute—the woman whose boobs started it up—Rottenberg writes like he’s reading our simple minds.

“Yes, yes, I know: Each of us wears many personas,” he wrote. “A woman journalist like Lara Logan should be able to celebrate herself as both a journalist and a woman, even a sexy woman. But the operative word in that sentence—should—is the sticky point.”

Yet, one line earlier, while still rattling off Rottenberg’s Rules for Women, he writes, “If you want to be taken seriously as a journalist, don’t pose for pictures that emphasize your cleavage.”

While Rottenberg condescends to women for wanting to have it both ways—to be able to be both openly female and produce serious work—Rottenberg himself is trying to have it both ways. He disingenuously concedes that a “woman journalist” should be able to wear a flattering gown at a social event and have her work taken seriously, while declaring that she shouldn’t be in a photo with cleavage; he calls Logan’s rape “outrageous” while questioning what message she was sending by showing cleavage in another time and place; he advises that being “forewarned is forearmed” while admitting it’s him we may have to shoot.

Bottom line: Of course women and children should be careful of our surroundings. Everyone should. Women are more than well aware of the additional danger we face every time we leave the house and get followed, harassed and sometimes attacked—by men and boys who believe the very ideas that Rottenberg’s so smugly endorsing.

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1. Anonymous said... on Jun 15, 2011 at 08:52AM

“Time to put Gramps out to pasture.”

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2. Anonymous said... on Jun 15, 2011 at 09:19AM

“I must be higher on the evolutionary scale than Dan Rottenberg because I have never had the desire to rape anyone. Really though, what kind of drivel did you expect from a guy whose name is Rottenberg?”

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3. Anonymous said... on Jun 15, 2011 at 09:51AM

“"Conquering an unwilling sex partner is about as much drama as a man can find without shooting a gun."

What the hell? If THAT'S true, how come I never read stories about gay men raping straight guys (what goes on in the abbatoir we call our prison system is a bit different).

Furthermore, if Rotten's right, that all men have this perfectly normal uncontrollable desire to rape women, a instinct if you will, I don't think requiring women to cover up is the solution. Wouldn't that only add to the "drama" he supposes we all seek?

No, I fear that if Rotten's right, the only solution is to preventatively castrate all men, before we rape. Or perhaps the prescription is lobotomy, to simply excise whatever part of our brains houses the rape instinct

You go first, Rottenberg.

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4. Anonymous said... on Jun 15, 2011 at 01:23PM

“LOVE this article. Thank you for saying what we have all been thinking in such clear and eloquent words.”

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5. Anonymous said... on Jun 15, 2011 at 02:33PM

“Rottenberg is past his prime. Philly arts organizations should seriously rethink granting him press tickets to events...not only because of his poorly written drivel on sexuality, but the fact that every one of his so-called articles and reviews do nothing but advance his own personal biases and opinions (and to drive traffic to his site, natch). Most times his writing has very little to do with the initial subject matter. Dude's a menace to the Philly arts scene, and I hope this is the nail in the coffin of Broad street Review.”

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6. Cara Blouin said... on Jun 15, 2011 at 05:18PM

“http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=117184001702000

Please join us at Plays & Players Theatre on Saturday, June 25th at 10:30 PM for a theatrical presentation of the article and post show drinks and discussion! All are welcome!”

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7. Oy Baroney said... on Jun 15, 2011 at 05:35PM

“Rottenberg just trashed whatever reputation he had with this nonsense. It's don't-know-where-to-look bad, atrocious on every level, from the writing to the warped un-logic to the hateful and insidious implications. It's worst crime may be how goddamn lazy it is. Just awful.”

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8. Matt Ruben said... on Jun 15, 2011 at 08:39PM

“Great piece, Tara. I don't know what the heck Dan was thinking, but I think you're getting at it when you say his piece reads "less like a letter from an editor and more like a cry for help."”

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9. Common sense said... on Jun 16, 2011 at 07:01AM

“Hey Dan, rape is a power act, NOT a sex act. Get some education. By your logic, if you were to wear a nice watch, I might want it and it would be your fault if I knocked you out and took it, right? Look, don't be jealouse of more successful female reporters. Try to learn how to do your job and stop talking nonsense.”

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10. Anonymous said... on Jun 16, 2011 at 04:22PM

“This is just useless dribble from an old, irrelevant, angry, undesirable, old fart. Ignore him and he'll go away.”

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11. Masha_B said... on Jun 16, 2011 at 07:12PM

“What a schmock! His comments make me wonder if there had been any sexual assault/harrassment accusations where he is the main figurant? After all this schmock (LITERALLY!) speaks what's on his mind!
To the authors, thank you for the great article. We need more of it.”

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12. Heather said... on Jun 18, 2011 at 01:56PM

“Earth to liberated male arts writer:

"Want to get laid" does NOT equal "want to get raped."

I, personally, want to get laid. Cause it's fun. That's why I'm dressing up sexy and going out tonight. Conversely, I do NOT want to get raped. Cause it's NOT fun. How is that confusing?”

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13. Anonymous said... on Jun 18, 2011 at 06:07PM

“After seeing this old guy and checking out his website, I think he needs to retire himself. He's probably losing too many brain cells and having to dredge back to the 1950s to find something he remembers well enough to write about. How pathetic.”

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14. Lauren Donna Graham said... on Jun 19, 2011 at 03:25PM

“Rottenboy's views are so 1950s. It would seem that Cotton Top is way past his expiration date.

I am 65-years-old and remember the '50s. They were not 'Happy Days'.”

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15. anonymous said... on Jun 19, 2011 at 04:06PM

“ole danny boy has serious issues...likely, NOT getting laid in the recent past and, more likely, NOT having a healthy relationship with ANY woman, particularly his mother?”

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16. Anonymous said... on Jun 19, 2011 at 07:00PM

“Thank you for writing this piece. Rottenberg's views are beyond ill-informed or out-dated. They're condescending and insulting. I refuse to barricade myself in my house like "Ann" seemed to do. I refuse to distrust my friends. I am cautious but I'm not going to let men like Rottenberg tell me how to run my life. If he wants women to stay covered up and locked in the house because he can't control his own (NOT NORMAL) impulses, might I suggest he move to rural Afghanistan? I'm sure the Taliban's treatment of women would give him some relief from having to see women in shorts or a bit of cleavage.”

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17. Jim Ryan said... on Jun 20, 2011 at 11:01AM

“By sheer coincidence, I watched Irreversible last night. If you're unfamiliar, it is Gaspar Noe's unflinching, almost unwatchable depiction of a brutal rape. I'm not sure what I would have thought of the film, had I not also read this story on the very same day. I probably would have wondered what value there was in subjecting an audience to the full act of rape in all of its violence. Thanks to Mr. Rottenberg, I now know exactly that value is. Apparently some people do not have an understanding of what rape is or what kind of animal commits such an act. I would suggest that Mr. Rottenberg watch this film and ask himself whether a discussion of Alex's attire would be pertinent to any analysis of what happens to her. That is the real question here. There may well be a need to seriously discuss the hyper-sexualization and objectification of women in our society - but that is a separate matter and one that has zero relevance in any discussion of rape.”

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18. peacevoice said... on Jun 21, 2011 at 02:44PM

“If asked about strict rules of religious dress my guess is Dan would be against the burka. If asked if young relatives of his should rape if confronted with a pretty woman in revealing dress, my guess is he would be against it. If he saw a daughter or grandchild in a short party dress my guess is he would think no adult should touch her inappropriately, let along molest her. So at what point did Mr Dan lose his senses and condone rape and molestation based on measuring the dress or locking doors? Its called violence, it has no excuse.”

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19. just a voice said... on Jun 22, 2011 at 08:57AM

“"It’s unclear if Rottenberg attributes the attempted rape and daughter’s molestation to the way Sarah dressed and the burglaries to her door-locking habits, or what."

I'm sorry, but this is one example in this piece where you're leading other people astray. It is very clear to me that he is saying that this woman gave the impression that she was more than a bit dozy and made it easy to be taken advantage of. People who will commit crimes against you look for the easy target, and she made herself one by not taking precautions for her own safety. It's not directly attributable to the way she dresses, but her overall attitude. Leave your door open and generally act as if you have no idea what's happening around you, well some lowlifes are watching and will take advantage.

This is nothing but a venomous attack and it is horrible to see. Instead of doing that, why didn't you ask Mr Rottenberg to explain what he really meant and actually start some meaningful dialogue?”

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20. Rocza said... on Jun 22, 2011 at 12:06PM

“Oh sure, 'just a voice', let's ask Rottenberg to clarify what he means when he says:
“Don’t trust your male friends."

"Don’t go to a man’s home at night unless you’re prepared to have sex with him."

“Conquering an unwilling sex partner is about as much drama as a man can find without shooting a gun."

Because those sentences are so hard to understand. The context is so hidden! What could Rottenberg *really* mean?

Men should be just as unhappy as women about this portrayal, because they're portrayed as all being raping rapists who will rape, and women are all being portrayed as objects to have sex with whenever the desire occurs.

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21. A said... on Jun 22, 2011 at 02:21PM

“Thanks so much for this column. Rott's writing made me sick. Please continue with this valuable reporting.”

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22. Anonymous said... on Jun 22, 2011 at 03:17PM

“Most of these comments are missing the point of Mr. Rottenburg's essay.
There is a vast difference between wearing a flattering gown and deciding on showing extensive cleavage.
"Yesssssssssssssssssss. Let's one-up the attention and eliminate the competition. Go for it "
Clothing is a message and male guilt is an undercurrent here. Would you males stroll streets or some particular streets attired in an equivalent fashion?? I think not.

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23. Marko said... on Jun 23, 2011 at 10:34AM

“You write, "The majority of my female friends have been molested, sexually assaulted or raped at some point in their lives."

then, "Rottenberg normalizes the desire to rape; attributes that desire to rape to all men"

Effect and then cause. Cause and effect. If you walk through a high-crime district flashing cash and wearing a Rolex, it isn't really your fault you got robbed — but it is thoroughly predictable.

Your PC approach to this topic is tired. I don't agree with Rottenberg's position -- as you describe it -- but It's time we stopped vilifying everyone who dares challenge group-think on controversial issues.

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24. just a voice said... on Jun 23, 2011 at 01:17PM

“Rocza....

But I didn't say I agreed with everything he says. I don't, but I do (in fact) agree that going home with a man, after a date (this is what I believe he means), if you don't want to have sex with him is not a good idea. From many mens point of view (particularly if you're dressed in a sexually appealing way) there is only one reason why you would. Doesn't mean it's okay for him to rape you. It doesn't make it your fault if he does. But since when was a bit of precaution a bad thing?

Look, my step-daughter got robbed of her bass a while back, walking the mean streets of Society Hill. Had she worn the carry case over her shoulder instead of carrying it by hand, the scumbag that ran by, pushed her to the floor and took off with it wouldn't have been able to. It's not her fault, it's ALWAYS the fault of the person committing the crime, but there are precautions you can take to make these things less likely to happen.”

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25. Anonymous said... on Jun 23, 2011 at 01:22PM

“Also...

"Men should be just as unhappy as women about this portrayal, because they're portrayed as all being raping rapists who will rape, and women are all being portrayed as objects to have sex with whenever the desire occurs."

No they're not. Nowhere does he say "all men". This is the problem with this kind of witch hunt, it typically includes exaggeration of what's actually been said.

And it's funny, because I felt the article he was writing in response to didn't particularly flatter men either. No huge response to that though.”

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26. Anonymous said... on Jun 24, 2011 at 12:27PM

“Great article. This man is disgusting. There's actually a petition calling for him to resign.

http://www.change.org/petitions/editor-who-blamed-lara-logan-for-her-gang-rape-must-go”

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27. Anonymous said... on Jun 25, 2011 at 04:10PM

“Dear Dan Rottenberg, lover and admirer of rapists (and opponent of freedom). Apparently your fantasy life scares you.Who are you to advocate misogynist "rules" that include having a gun?Can a person actually invite sexual assault?How many "offensive" women have you raped? What "provocative" wardrobes for men do you find alluring?Should these men have guns too?How does one decide that someone is a rapist before shooting them?Should the "victim" shoot to kill or just aim with the goal of epicenity?

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28. shelle said... on Jun 27, 2011 at 12:51PM

“Anonymous #25,

You said, "Nowhere does he say "all men". This is the problem with this kind of witch hunt, it typically includes exaggeration of what's actually been said."

The ONLY statement in the article where Rottenberg allows that some men may not agree with him is when he says, "But most men will see it as a sign that you want to get laid." And even in that statement, he alludes to an imaginary majority.

In the rest of his statements in the article, he makes blanket statements about men, their beliefs, and their behaviors, with no qualifiers like "some, most, a portion of," etc. And I DO find that kind of blatant misrepresentation disgusting.

Other than the one example I posted, could you point out exactly how this Tara's article is a "witch hunt," and where Rottenberg acknowledges that some men may hold themselves to higher standards than the Neanderthal behavior he describes?”

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29. Reed Stevens said... on Jun 27, 2011 at 02:52PM

“Yes, Dan, your parental advice is sound: don't buy a house you can't afford. Don't get into water over your head unless you are a strong swimmer. Keep your eyes peeled.

Even so,disasters come along. This angry mob never saw Logan's lovely bosom. They were just angry boys trained to kill something foreign. And there are a lot of them practicing that right now.

Reed Stevens”

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30. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 10:40AM

“Rottenberg's comments are completely justified. If she didn't dress promiscuously, there wouldn't be something for her attacker to desire. Which brings me to a second point, you people are so preoccupied with what a journalist - who has served his field faithfully for decades - said, that you're forgetting who the real criminal is here - her attacker! Go after that guy. His actions were NOT justified. However, in the United States, we reserve a freedom of speech - if Rottenberg wants to express his opinion (which I personally find very accurate), then that is his prerogative and you all need to get over it. Find the attacker and hang him. Quit trying to put an opinionated guy on the cross just because you disagree.”

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31. Vera said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 11:21AM

“To anonymous number 30.
I see the article by rottenberg as a seperate crime from the one the rapists comitted. Rottenberg is perpetuating the myth that it is a womens fault when she gets raped either because of how she dressed what she said etc. I was 11 when I was sexually assaulted and I was not into sexy clothing or any type of sexualised conversation/attitude. I was a true nerd allways into books. Yet when this happend to me noone would do anything about it because I probably spurred my attacker on. Fwiw my attacker is (yes IS) my stepdad and quite frankly I never stood a chance. It is because of these types of absolute crap as portrayed by Rottenberg that survivors (both women and men) suffer so much more than they should. His article shows a complete lack of understanding of rape and paints a rather worrying picture of how men supposedly function.
Replace rape with beating is it still ok?”

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32. Nancy said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 11:24AM

“What a moron - not just Rottenberg but that other freaks here who defend him, like Anonymous who said "If she didn't dress promiscouously, there wouldn't be something for her attacker to desire."

Just shows you how the world is full of disgusting creepy victim-blaming rape-apologists. Rottenberg is just their spokesperson.

And BTW idiot Anonymous - nobody is stopping Rottenberg from expressing his opinion - criticizing him for his opinion is not the same as denying him a right to express it. Moron.”

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33. Caroline said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 11:34AM

“My sister and I were raped and beaten from the age of 4 until 16 by our mothers' husband. This horrible experence lead to my sisters suicide at age of 50.
These animals rape and beat women and children because the can, it give them power, and they are enabled by spineless people who look the other way, giving them cover or excuses.
Perhaps if this author live a day in my shoes, or my sisters, his outlook would be different.
I feel sorry for him.”

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34. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 11:41AM

“yeah, super disgusting. Of course Rottenberg has every right to express his sub-human views of sexuality and mis-attribute that to the dynamics of rape. We are a free country - remember- we don't make beautiful women wear burkas nor do we prevent you from expressing your opinion. But Ol' Rotten better be ready for the reaction to his dismal perspectives on humanity and culpability.”

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35. Anonymous 30 said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 11:43AM

“Vera -- You're trying to put my statement into an absolute. I did not say that dressing promiscuously is the only reason a woman gets raped. I said it's a reason that leads to it. It's still likely even if you're in a Mennonite dress code, but the odds turn further against you when you dress in such a show-offy way. The example you provided of your assault: You mentioned your attacker was your stepdad, and that you were 11. This is different. Your stepfather obviously had a pedophilia perversion which is his own mental instability and of course at this age nothing you did could have provoked that. Logan on the other hand is a responsible adult who could have improved her chances of avoiding her attack had she made some better decisions. I'm not defending her attacker, his crime is still absolutely intolerable, but Rottenberg reserves the right to preach his agenda in an opinionated article if he wants. Criticizing him is one thing - campaigning to get him fired for it is another.”

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36. Anonymous 30 said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 11:44AM

“Nancy -- Your rude name-calling comments will not be tolerated. If you want to have a debate, you need to grow up/mature and learn to deliver your comments appropriately. I'm not going to discuss this with you if you're just going to be belligerent.”

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37. Cindy B said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 11:45AM

“FIRE THIS GUY!!!! FIRE THIS GUY!!! If that was his wife, daughter or niece I bet he'd be screaming for justice... not saying his wife asked for it!”

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38. Pedantic said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 11:52AM

“@Anonymous 30
Attackers, not attacker. It was a gang rape. She was a journalist. She was reporting at an event. A mob of men attacked her.

This wasn't an alley at 3am with a mini-skirt and stilettos.

Even if you and Rotten's assessments are correct, her gang rape doesn't fit the excuses you're mustering.

And yes, actually, as an editor for a publication your job is open to public opinion. To a certain degree, your job is contingent on popularity. If you can't grasp that, well then... many adult concepts are out of your grasp.

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39. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 11:53AM

“Cindy, I'm sure you have an opinion of your own that would clash with several others - let's say you say it out loud at a bar and it gets taped and publicized in some fashion. You're prepared to lose your job, right? Just as long as you're not a hypocrite.”

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40. Anonymous 30 said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 12:17PM

“Pedantic -- Perhaps you should grasp the concept of an editorial. It's his opinion, not the public's. Public opinion is for the rest of the paper. But the op-ed corner...that's reserved for him.”

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41. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 01:19PM

“"Logan on the other hand is a responsible adult who could have improved her chances of avoiding her attack had she made some better decisions."
No. No no no no no no. Do you really think that a decision to wear a low cut dress in 2008 at an event that took place on the opposite side of the world had anything to do with her attack in 2011? Because the mob of men who raped her were totally just zealous fans of hers who had been following her career for a super long time and were probably intimately familiar with every styling decision she'd made in her life. Yep. Right.
No.

The entire article is blaming her for something that doesn't even make sense in the context of Rottenburg's mindset. So yeah, he's a moron.

And Anonymous39, your scenario makes no sense because Rottenburg didn't say it at a bar, he said it at his job. It's not like he was caught by surprised when this was publicized. He did it himself. For his JOB. Kind of different situations there.”

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42. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 01:45PM

“Anonymous 41, it doesn't matter how it's publicized. What you say on your own time and what you say at your job is still "what you say" and the penalties should be equal.”

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43. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 01:46PM

“And additionally, did any of you even bother to see the response article made by a woman at the same newspaper, that addresses most of your concerns and furthermore isn't a man who you've all decided to label as evil across the board?

http://www.broadstreetreview.com/index.php/main/article/sex_abuse_how_to_respond_to_dan_rottenberg”

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44. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 01:47PM

“I'm sorry, but when did "want(ing) to get laid" mean "willing to have sex with ANY male specimen who decides he's interested"? Even if a woman goes out looking for someone to sleep with tonight, that does not mean that she forfeits the right to refuse to have sex with YOU.”

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45. Susan Mitchell said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 02:04PM

“Mr. Rottenberg, clearly chauvinistic in his thinking, needs a wake up call! Wonder how he would feel if it were his daughter or granddaughter in this situation. A woman is not raped due to the choice of clothing she wears. A woman is raped because the perpetrator has a sick, twisted way of satisfying his sexual needs. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the clothes or the lack thereof. If a child, male or female, in their swimsuits, at the beach or pool area, is raped, is it because they asked for it due to the type of swimsuit they wear? NO! Mr. Rottenberg needs to keep his mouth shut! How he is a respectable man is beyond me! NO MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT HIS HANDS ON A WOMAN, NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE. NO WOMAN SHOULD HAVE TO ENDURE WHAT MS. LOGAN WENT THROUGH & then be condemned for the way she has been violated. Mr. Rottenberg needs to step down, retire, & find a place to live apart from women, because he clearly has no respect for the female gender!”

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46. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 02:12PM

“Susan, if you're demanding that he should be removed from his position entirely over his opinion that he has every right to, then you're disrespecting the male gender by saying they have no rights. Hypocrite, much?”

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47. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 03:12PM

“1. Females of all ages--from infants to the elderly--are sexually assaulted, in all manner of dress/undress. So are males.
2. Apparently, Logan was raped because the perpetrators thought she was Israeli. This wasn't about sex, it was about ethnic/nationalistic/religious hatred.
3. Yes, there are things one can do to take personal precautions, but "precautions" don't always mean bad things won't happen.
4. In societies where rape is condoned, it is more prevalent.
5. In order to make rape less prevalent, societal attitudes have to change.
6. We all have a responsibility for this to happen, but people in certain professions have more "power" to do so--I would argue journalists are among them, as their thoughts are able to reach a far wider audience than, say, a person who works at a grocery store. That is why there are specific ethics for journalists--in recognition of that power.”

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48. Tracie Wolfe said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 03:22PM

“this reminds me of the "guy" that "taught" my divorce class- he told us that if women wouldn't have joined the workforce and stayed home to take care of her "husband" we wouldnt have such a high divorce rate in this country-never mind that my ex was cheating, and an alcholic-but then he told me that was still my fault for not taking care of him the proper way........”

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49. Katy said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 03:54PM

“Anonymous, let me play that comment back to you:
“Susan, if you're demanding that he should be removed from his position entirely over his opinion that he has every right to, then you're disrespecting the male gender by saying they have no rights. Hypocrite, much?”

Did you really just compare a man's (nonexistent) right to say whatever he likes in a public forum with complete freedom from fear of consequences and backlash with a woman's right not to be brutally assaulted and raped then blamed for it? Want to take a step back?”

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50. Nancy said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 07:24PM

“Oh boo hoo, creepy contemptible rape apologist Anonymous coward won't talk to me if I tell him what I really think about rape apologists such as himself.

I already said all there is to say about a douchebag like you. The only thing I can add is that any women in your life would be well advised to never be alone with a blame-the-rape-victim asshole such as you. You make me want to puke.”

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51. Anonymous said... on Jun 28, 2011 at 09:52PM

“To alll the ignormauses out there pointing out clothing: I suggest you educate yourselves on the issue of rape. The most common outift victims of rape wear are jeans and a t-shirt.”

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52. just a voice said... on Jun 29, 2011 at 01:01PM

“shelle said...

Yet again what he has actually said is being completely overplayed by you. He only mentions mens actual intentions TWICE. The one you stated and another talking about the drama of conquering an unwilling sex partner, which I do not agree with myself. It's not "men this, men that, men the other" all over the place as you are insinuating.

This is partly what makes it a witch hunt. Also the lack of any attempt to allow him to explain what he actually meant, rather just jumping to conclusions. But worse, campaigning to have him fired, holding a one-off theatre performance castigating him. It's frankly ridiculous.”

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53. just a voice said... on Jun 29, 2011 at 01:08PM

“He's also CLEARLY not a rape-apologist, or blaming the victim, using his own words from the same article:

"Smullens recounted a litany of incidents involving clients and acquaintances that are dismaying at least and revolting at worst"

"Perhaps most outrageous of all is the recent ordeal of the CBS News reporter Lara Logan"

"Smullens argues that women need to speak up and speak out when they’re victimized, as Lara Logan has done, and of course she is right."”

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54. Anonymous said... on Jun 29, 2011 at 02:22PM

“Nancy, both of your comments have been reported to the comment moderator. I will not tolerate your offensive, profane remarks.”

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55. Richard W. Salzman said... on Jun 29, 2011 at 02:54PM

“Dan Rottenberg has written a response (of sorts) to the reaction to his editorial that on their webpage
broadstreetreview (dot) com/index.php/main/article/about_that_column_on_sex_abuse/

I feel it's a weak excuse for the apology he'd have been wise to have issued. If you want to continue to call for his removal, you need to reach out to the board of directors.
They're names are listed on thier website: broadstreetreview (dot) com/index.php/main/static/board_of_directors

Below is the only contact information I have found for the board members. Please be civil and use reason. If we come off as too angry, we’ll be less effective (even if makes us feel good at the time), and I’d like to see results, such as Rottenberg’s dismissal.

Dr Gresham G Riley 156 N 3rd St Philly. PA 19106-1814 (215) 413-2036
Ruthrauff, W. Bourne - Ruthrauff@bbs-law.com 215-567-2883
Neil Kleinman nkleinman@uarts.edu (voice mails at uarts) 800.616.2787
Priscilla M. Luce
c/o The Albert M Greenfield Found”

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56. Anonymous said... on Jun 29, 2011 at 05:49PM

“If you actually read what you just posted, Richard, you'd notice Dan is on the Board of Directors himself. Sure they could vote him off, but that's highly unlikely if he's got his own money in the joint.”

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57. Richard W. Salzman said... on Jun 30, 2011 at 06:17PM

“Yes, I saw that he's also a board member, and I don't expect that the BSR is particularly a money making venture. But I do think his fellow board members should feel some heat and give due consideration as to keeping someone with such poor judgement in the position of Chief Editor. Never mind how weak his arguments are (the same as the one for burkas), it was thoughtless and/or indecent to use Ms. Logan's ordeal in order to foster a philosophical debate about what inspires rapists. Rape is generally considered an act of violence and power more then of sexual desire, but in Ms. Logan's attack, there was no indication that these men were in anyway desires of her, or attracted to her, or wanting to copulate with her. This was an act of extreme mob violence, allegedly fueled by verbal accusations that she was an Israeli agent.
Why not give the board members reason to consider his replacement?”

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58. Grady O said... on Jul 3, 2011 at 01:42AM

“several articles on the Rottenberg matter here:
http://oppugno.com/blog/?s=rottenberg”

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59. Anonymous said... on Jul 21, 2011 at 10:56PM

“I would love to say I cannot seriously believe that men are this dim-witted, but sadly, I can.
Women are raped in Afghanistan in full burqa every day. The flowing cloth and appearance of a moving blob drives you craazzzyy, huh? It's not PC you idiots, it's the truth.
I prefer to dress modestly in my daily life, but not because I'm scared of men, and not because I think I have any obligation to dress modestly for their sake. Men have the full capacity for self-control. If you don't, you're not a man. You are a beast.
Fucking pigs should be euthanised.”

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60. Anonymous said... on Aug 1, 2011 at 04:24AM

“Rape is a SEX crime not a primarily a power crime. Occasionally rape victims are murdered to conceal the crime or treated sadistically but generally they are just people from whom some sort of sexual entitlement is stolen. One female rapist who raped a boy and then pushed him off a bridge...when asked why'd you rape the boy said calmly 'cause I was horny'. Male rapists prefer to rape young women in their sexual prime. Feminist nonsense about rape needs to be exposed and debunked rather than respected as the gospel truth.

Rottenberg's craven and ill-informed apology sets back all efforts to challenge feminist bigots to spread the most ridiculous falsehoods about rape. Rather than apologize HE needs to demand an apology from all the ugly bullies who are trying to silence him.”

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61. Richard Salzman said... on Aug 25, 2011 at 02:23PM

“I"m waiting to hear what Dan has to say about how this man was dressed:

Cheema, 34, a prominent political reporter for the International News, Pakistan's largest English-language daily, was driving home at night when men in black commando uniforms forced him over, blindfolded and handcuffed him. Somewhere in the suburbs of Islamabad he was stripped, forced face down on the floor and whipped with long pieces of leather and a wooden rod.

His tormentors videotaped him naked in humiliating positions, then warned they would post the images on YouTube if he revealed the attack, the Times reported. At one point, he was told, "If you can't avoid rape, enjoy it." In Cheema's early accounts of the September 4, 2010, attack, he left what happened next to the imagination.

http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=5137”

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