Ordinance Barring Temple Students From Specific Areas Still Drawing Ire From Lawyers, Landlords

By Randy Lobasso
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Stouffer and some landlords in the area concede there can be problems when campus housing spills over into neighborhoods. And they don’t deny the neighbors’ complaints were without merit.

“But there are already laws for that,” says one landlord. “They have police for that.”

Stouffer thinks it’s the school’s responsibility to keep their students at bay as they move off campus—not city ordinances, and certainly not discriminatory ones that were put into law illegally.

“The minute you’re automatically discriminating against people because they’re members of a class, that’s what makes it unconstitutional.”

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1. Former Philly Resident said... on Feb 22, 2012 at 09:54AM

“I guess age discrimination is okay in the once-great City of Philadelphia. Wouldn't want young adults moving into a dead North Philly neighborhood and moving into any of the abandoned housing stock, after all.

Much better to have North Philly's typical array of crumbling, bombed-out shells with boarded up doors and windows than "a characterless cluster of cars and boardinghouses with concrete front lawns" with actual people living in them, right?”

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2. Anonymous said... on Feb 22, 2012 at 10:28AM

“What I a great idea! Let's ban a diverse group of students from all over PA from an area full of crumbling buildings peppered with drug dealers and abandoned lots. If "North Central" is afraid of their neighborhood falling apart and becoming worse off, they should be welcoming students, because the people who are own buildings there now simply abandon them so they become occupied by squatters, dealers, and addicts. I'm sorry, but urban blight in N. Philly is not caused by students, it's caused by everyone else.”

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3. Anonymous said... on Feb 22, 2012 at 11:15AM

“I guess the residents of this area of North Philly would rather deal with violent crime and drug dealers. As stated above, the students are not responsible for the way the neighborhood looks.

But if that's the way the residents want it then let them live in a crime infested area and in their own squalor.”

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4. Anonymous said... on Feb 22, 2012 at 11:42AM

“I wrote post 3. In response to 4. I agree, but I don't live too far from the area that they're talking about in the article. It seems to be a good idea to let them live in their squalor, but my neighborhood has to deal with all of these people coming down and causing problems every day. It's not too hard for criminals to walk 10 blocks south and rob cars and vandalize my neighborhood. I'd rather see these idiotic policies fixed so that the area around Temple can become nicer and safer with students leading the charge. Blight and crime in N. Philly won't be contained in N. Philly until we all work together to improve these areas or build a fence down Girard Ave. which clearly won't happen.”

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5. Anonymous said... on Feb 22, 2012 at 12:34PM

“Your understanding of unconstitutionality needs to be a little more refined before you throw around the term, sir.

Also, were you too lazy to interview anyone but landlords and their lawyer so as to better understand the legal argument in support of the bill?”

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6. Anonymous said... on Feb 22, 2012 at 10:54PM

“Before you comment on this law you need to know something about Yorktown. It is not abandoned, squalid, or full of vacancies. It is a vibrant, family filled community that deserves the same protection from student flop houses that Lower Merion, Villanova and other White communities insist on.”

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7. pollo diablo said... on Feb 23, 2012 at 09:39AM

“living next to college housing is a nightmare. however, i find it odiously offensive that a government agency can get away with being able to go to home under the false pretense of checking smoke detectors, look through a door, make a determination as to whats going on in said house, report back to a higher authority, and ultimately remove occupants from a dwelling. holy crap. i thought i read about something called abuse of powers and unresonable searches somewhere before. if you find anything constitutional about how philadelphia is handling this, from top to bottom, you should be hung from some gallows in front of the whole town. his name is john street, not king john street for fucks sake. the shit smeared banner of democracy flies proudly over north philly i guess. give me liberty or give me death...”

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8. Anonymous said... on Feb 23, 2012 at 08:34PM

“It's the 14th amendment to the constitution, not article 1 section 14.”

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9. Anonymous said... on Feb 28, 2012 at 11:26PM

“^^^Good lord, I didn't even notice that error. Even more indefensible.”

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10. Temple student said... on Mar 6, 2012 at 10:44AM

“Let's face it: the long-time residents simply don't want Temple students living around them. This policy seems "discriminatory" on a superficial level, considering I've seen flyers up in this neighborhood that are explicitly anti-student housing. If anything, the ones being discriminated here are the students, but even that's an outlandish claim; there're too many students pouring into north Philly as it is (since the school lets in anyone and everyone). Only rarely do students and the community get along, so I think it's just best to put a limit on the growing animosity between them.”

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